Jeff Smith Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Was this a case of a bridge too far Heljan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2019 Seriously considering cancelling mine, I have an earlier model which just about runs and my hope was that by now these issues would be resolved, but it seems that this may have misplaced hope. I really want one, but it is a lot of money for something that may not cope with my fairly shallow incline and mainline points. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The original model I have has been tested on the equivalent of a 1:50 gradient and ran out of stock to use. It maybe that there's still a minor issue with the pony truck pickups lifting the drivers on some models hence por performance. Mainline points again should be OK with maybe a minor tweak to the centring spring on the ponies if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2019 On my friend Tim’s layout there’s a stiff gradient that requires actual banking locos and the L&B 2-6-2 managed 6 coaches easily. The fixes mentioned in this topic and you’ll have a perfectly good loco in 10 minutes if you can get over the shouldn’t have to bit On the Clyre Valley Tim has a thread on NGRM online about its construction. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I don't know if I should be concerned I haven't had a chance to really run mine yet after almost a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2019 All I’d say is check the drop link in the valve gear first and if it will swing in and looks like it could catch gently bend it in the middle so it can’t swing into the connecting rod. The drive is very powerful so if it catches at speed it will rip out the crankpin. The other mods just help with running , only the drop link causes potential for damage. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 17/10/2019 at 05:22, PaulRhB said: All I’d say is check the drop link in the valve gear first and if it will swing in and looks like it could catch gently bend it in the middle so it can’t swing into the connecting rod. The drive is very powerful so if it catches at speed it will rip out the crankpin. The other mods just help with running , only the drop link causes potential for damage. That’s an interesting diagnosis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) This is the link and it has too much ‘flop’ so it can get tangled. I held it with needle nose pliers just below the top rivet and bent it gently out using the end of a coffee stirrer so I didn’t damage the lower rivet. I guess it’s about a 20-30° bend so it can’t flop back into the path of the main rods. Edited October 17, 2019 by PaulRhB 1 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coline33 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Thanks, Paul, for clearly illustrating the problem area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 06:44, PaulRhB said: Looks like the v2 issues still exist then! Roundhouse said his Lyd didn’t need any fettling so we wondered if they’d sorted it. The last 2 I have had were nearly perfect and still are, only action necessary was reduce the pony centre springing pressure to almost zero and remove top bar centre section of cow catchers to allow coupling assembly ( attached to pony truck) to swing freely. Nothing has fallen off valve gear works fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2019 I’m still waiting for Lew so hopefully that will arrive in the next month or so to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
217 RIVER FLESK Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 12/08/2019 at 15:28, Paul.Uni said: According to Hattons, the plain black and Southern liveries of Lyd are due next week. Now showing as being in stock 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezza Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have three v2s- after tweaking the pony truck spring two run perfectly and one is a little sticky in reverse but acceptable. I have never lost pins but I only run at scale speeds. Excess speed may be a factor in lost or loose pins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted October 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2019 'Lew' is now available in Hattons and Rails. Just ordered one. I now have all the locos for my planned layout but just need to finish painting LYN which is a Backwoods kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted October 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2019 LEW arrived yesterday. Loco valve gear all ok and checked that none of it clashed. However the loco leaned heavily to one side but ran fine. Today I decided to take a closer look so body removed but wasn't to do with the way the chassis was fixed to the body. I then checked the wheels and found that the centre set of drivers where not I. Line with the others so chassis keeper plate off and found one bearing on the centre axle was not seated correctly. That was soon sorted out but you have to be careful realigning the two axles with the gears as they need to be put back to keep the quartering correct. The loco now sits much better and is fine currently being run in on the test circuit. No derailing pony wheels either. Now pleased with it but Heljan do need to improve the quality control. The other noticeable thing with all five of these I now have is that the wheels are filthy out of the box so they have all had a good clean. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2019 Hattons have some on offer at £150 https://www.hattons.co.uk/newsdetail.aspx?id=445&utm_campaign=MAR-223 - Heljan OO9 L%26B 2-6-2T %2F Winter promo&utm_medium=email&utm_source=PKjAha&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJwYXVsLnN0ZWVkbWFuQG12cnBvd2VyLmNvLnVrIiwgImtsX2NvbXBhbnlfaWQiOiAiSkdRZVhoIn0%3D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRedTrain Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Ordered a green Lyd from Bure Valley Models (who incidentally have it at £178, cheapest I've seen). Unfortunately after a quick test run, the valve gear came apart on both sides (drop link came astray and one of the tiny pins shot off never to be found), so back it had to go. Full marks to BVM, I phoned them on Friday to arrange the return, posted it on Monday, and the replacement (which they had test-run for me) arrived Thursday morning! I've now had a chance to run it on my oval test track, and after applying the recommended fixes of loosening the pony centering springs and wipers, it *touch wood* seems to be running fine. There's one dodgy track join where the leading pony sometimes comes off (I think my fault for poor track laying rather than the loco), and I haven't had a chance to try it on points yet, so fingers crossed. Now to carry on with layout planning... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Most versions were on Rails stand at Warley for £120. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Here's a short clip of one with sound. This one was running at Warley on the Hornby Magazine 009 layout, on analogue. Paul 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted November 29, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 21:22, PaulRhB said: All I’d say is check the drop link in the valve gear first and if it will swing in and looks like it could catch gently bend it in the middle so it can’t swing into the connecting rod. The drive is very powerful so if it catches at speed it will rip out the crankpin. The other mods just help with running , only the drop link causes potential for damage. Following your observations/encouragement I didn't cancel my Lew order and in fact added a Yeo order. They arrived some time ago but owing to work commitments I have only today had a chance to run them in. Interestingly, out of the box Yeo was the better runner - I slackened the springs for the pony-trucks slightly but that was it, the drop links were well clear of the coupling rods, even with the wheelsets pushed hard to either side. Lew, however, was a different matter. One drop link was hard against the connecting rod, no matter where the wheels were pushed, that was eased out as you suggested. The springing on the front pony-truck was so hard and off-centre that the wheels were off at a 10 degree angle and kept derailing - easily fixed. I also noted that Yeo had no coal in the bunkers, obviously missed on manufacture. Not a problem as it makes fitting real coal easier. On that note, has anybody removed the moulded coal from these? On my other two it seems well and truly attached. Thanks, Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 6, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2019 It looks like only the most recent ones (Lew & Lyd) have coal fitted. They must have forgotten about it on the first lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I finally had a chance for some short test-running this morning. Drop links eased out, springs slackened, I even attempted to push the pony contacts up a bit. She ran fine other than an odd clacking sound. I'm running Taw on Kato Unitrak, so I don't know if that my contribute to the clacking. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: I finally had a chance for some short test-running this morning. Drop links eased out, springs slackened, I even attempted to push the pony contacts up a bit. She ran fine other than an odd clacking sound. I'm running Taw on Kato Unitrak, so I don't know if that my contribute to the clacking. Any ideas? My test track is Kato Unitrack and I get the same sound going over the track joints. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I figured it may have been the joints. I wasn't certain, though. None of my N stock makes the same noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted December 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2019 Might be the cowcatchers rubbing as they are low? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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