Stevelewis Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I think the evidence is in front of your nose. Bearing in mind this is a new venture for Heljan it is obvious they would want to cover all bases over these models and the 009 market is not as big as the 00 and 0 market. I personally believe that these locos are going to prove popular like the Hornby Pecket, even at the higher price. No matter what caused the price change we the consumer have two choices, purchase them at the higher price or not purchase them, the choice is yours. But if I was a betting man I think the former will happen with the models selling out in days. Loconuts The retailers from whom I buy have confirmed to me nothing has changed regarding their items costs As a matter of interest the loco has already sold out in many outlets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Heljan have their UK outline models delivered on import from China, to their Danish HQ, and then distribute to the UK outlets fron Denmark. Import for Customs will be in a European mainland country, possibly Germany or Holland I would suspect, unless the tie up with Peco for this model has altered the normal arrangements Depends on the routing but normally most stuff arrives Rotterdam from China. Either if it is a Full container load it full will be transhipped under bond possibly via a Feeder vessel from R/dam to be cleared in Denmark or the container will be broken down and shipped as groupage and trucked / railed to under bond to Denmark for clearing. These did look smashing in RM the other month, Tempted to get one but the over €200 price might just make me wait till they appear with the statement 'Bargain' in Certain advertisements in the Model railway mags. If it does not happen then too bad for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Personally I don't believe the pricing has changed from the manufacturer. This model is being sold in more outlets than the normal 'oo' range, as it also covers those specialising in '009' which is where the tie in with Peco occurs and the first releases appear to be very popular. I've noticed that a certain mail order retailer in Liverpool does increase some of its prices to rrp when a model is popular and stock is down to the last few, they recently did this with a new Freightliner wagon from Dapol, but this normally does not affect any pre order prices. I've always had Heljan pre order prices maintained by them, even when Heljan has increased the wholesale and retail price before release. Edited April 3, 2017 by rembrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Surely a factor in price fluctuation could be the currency that the manufacturing contract was written in and any subsequent exchange variations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2017 The currency it was ordered in isn't really relevant to the thread We seem to be wandering off a bit I've been tweaking the plan for the mini layout to run them on. The end's 9 inches wide with the track in the middle, L&B min modular anyone 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 The currency it was ordered in isn't really relevant to the thread We seem to be wandering off a bit I've been tweaking the plan for the mini layout to run them on. The end's 9 inches wide with the track in the middle, L&B min modular anyone Yes, of course the thread has wandered off a bit from the 2013 early speculation as to whether the loco would actually be produced, through the early sightings of pre-production examples, to the excitement of the imminent deliveries. The recent spate of price discussion has filled up the waiting period for those anxious customers and those who want to order or re-order. International programmes like this are bound to be affected by currency exchange variations so it was merely an aspect of those discussions. Perhaps discussion of a layout to put it on should be on a new thread as this one is principally about the product itself..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2017 No I was just trying to get people thinking of something to run it on rather than a spreading discussion on import routes and finance, it's not going to be a build thread Somewhere to enjoy it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Well yes I think that thinking about what to do with them when they get here is a very creditable idea! I have been doing just that for a couple of years now,, and even begun to lay track and then scrap the idea and used the locations for something else ( 0n30 & N). Currently my plans are centreing in an approx. 3' x 7' baseboard which is already, partly constructed I am trying to keep the track plan simple in line with the original L&B's plans so it will probably be just a condensed version of one of the stations on a continuous run ( I am not keen on end to end layouts) so that I can watch the trains go by, but there will be a fiddle/storage facility at the rear so that a 'proper' timetable can be run when I feel like it. So let the layout discussion commence! Trouble is with the much improvement in the weather recently the Garden Line keeps calling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2017 Mick Thornton posted this image on NGRM and has kindly said it's ok to share it here. Taken at the 009 Society AGM at Rainford last weekend. Mick said, "Andrew Burnham kindly brought along 2 production models from Peco of the new Heljan Manning Wardle and they spent the day in a very suitable setting, running on Bob Barnard's superb Chelfham diorama layout (as seen in 009 News current issue). Photos of the first of the range to appear, in Southern livery have already been published, so for this report, here is possibly everyone's first glimpse of Manning wardle Yeo in original Lynton and Barnstaple Indian Red, Black and lined Green - an absolutely splendid model that looks even better in the flesh than it does in a photo." 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I am very tempted to dismantle my four boards of Bourne Valley and rebuild them as Blackmore Gate to run pure L & B stock when my two locos arrive Edited April 4, 2017 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Oh good I can connect Coombe Martin to it and we can go freemoo 9 ah we are going to have to do it now just so we can add to the confusion FREMO, Freemo and Freemoo! Funnily enough I knocked up an idea for an end profile yesterday Edited April 4, 2017 by PaulRhB 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 From Heljan's Facebook: Lynton & Barnstaple 9950 - 9952 updateHaving recently returned from our vendor in China, we are able to update you on the anticipated delivery date for these models.The initial production run should arrive mid-May with the remainder arriving early in June.As you may know, due to the large demand for these models we have instigated a re-run which we anticipate arriving late August, but unfortunately this re-run will be the subject of a price increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hopefully I'll have a couple of paychecks between now and the day when I need to pay for it then lessen the wallet impact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 From Heljan's Facebook: I've received my order update from Hattons confirming these revised release dates. The e-mail also showed the model at £189.95, so I e-mailed back to ask if my pre order price of £146 would be maintained and they have confirmed that it will be honoured. Phew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted April 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2017 Another email of delay from Hattons. May/June 2017 now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Mick Thornton posted this image on NGRM and has kindly said it's ok to share it here. Taken at the 009 Society AGM at Rainford last weekend. Mick said, "Andrew Burnham kindly brought along 2 production models from Peco of the new Heljan Manning Wardle and they spent the day in a very suitable setting, running on Bob Barnard's superb Chelfham diorama layout (as seen in 009 News current issue). Photos of the first of the range to appear, in Southern livery have already been published, so for this report, here is possibly everyone's first glimpse of Manning wardle Yeo in original Lynton and Barnstaple Indian Red, Black and lined Green - an absolutely splendid model that looks even better in the flesh than it does in a photo." IMG_6652.JPG Want... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Another email of delay from Hattons. May/June 2017 now! Yes as previous post above ( a couple or so) Initial delivery MID MAY remainder Early JUNE, Further batch to be produced but at increased price due LATE AUGUST! Bachmanns's Baldwin 4-6-0T WILL BE CATCHING the 2-6-2T up at this rate!! Still another 6(??) Weeks or so to continue layout buildin' Edited April 5, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I've received my order update from Hattons confirming these revised release dates. The e-mail also showed the model at £189.95, so I e-mailed back to ask if my pre order price of £146 would be maintained and they have confirmed that it will be honoured. Phew Just got the same mail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Kent Biker Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Mick Thornton posted this image on NGRM and has kindly said it's ok to share it here. Taken at the 009 Society AGM at Rainford last weekend. Mick said, "Andrew Burnham kindly brought along 2 production models from Peco of the new Heljan Manning Wardle and they spent the day in a very suitable setting, running on Bob Barnard's superb Chelfham diorama layout (as seen in 009 News current issue). Photos of the first of the range to appear, in Southern livery have already been published, so for this report, here is possibly everyone's first glimpse of Manning wardle Yeo in original Lynton and Barnstaple Indian Red, Black and lined Green - an absolutely splendid model that looks even better in the flesh than it does in a photo." IMG_6652.JPG More pictures here: http://www.lynton-rail.co.uk/trust/groups/pages/nwag-009-society-narrow-gauge-model-railway-show-rainford-1-april-2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted April 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 5, 2017 Yes as previous post above ( a couple or so) Initial delivery MID MAY remainder Early JUNE, Further batch to be produced but at increased price due LATE AUGUST! Bachmanns's Baldwin 4-6-0T WILL BE CATCHING the 2-6-2T up at this rate!! Still another 6(??) Weeks or so to continue layout buildin' Weirdly I didn't see the Heljan post on my Facebook feed! No excuse for me not reading Paul Uni's post though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Must admit, I've taken to following this thread just to see if it gets to 500 posts before anyone actually receives an order.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted April 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 8, 2017 Must admit, I've taken to following this thread just to see if it gets to 500 posts before anyone actually receives an order.. It was about a thousand before the Hornby Peckett arrived... Cheers, Keith 474 and counting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is that a challenge? (475!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Is that a challenge? (475!) No! (476)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Second batch announced: 9953 Lynton & Barnstaple 2-6-2T E760 "Exe" in intermediate Southern Railway livery (1927-29) 9954 Lynton & Barnstaple 2-6-2T E759 "Yeo" in Southern Railway livery 9955 Lynton & Barnstaple 2-6-2T "Exe" in L+B dark green9956 Lynton & Barnstaple 2-6-2T "Taw" in L+B dark green Info from Hattons 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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