Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 A different sort of "cab"..... There are clues in the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2013 A different sort of "cab"..... There are clues in the picture. Well the easy bit is that it's a ship. The question then becomes 'what ship'? And I'm inclined to think towards something in the large tug/fishery protection/coastal patrol sort of size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Back to the cab mockup - the window looks too narrow for two people to sit side by side. I remember hearing that at one point the HST was designed to only have one seat in the cab until someone asked how the instructors were going to teach them to drive it.... Whilst it deosn't look like a prototype HST cab, I wonder if it's something from around that sort of era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's a passenger carrying vessel Mike. The screen on the right shows which port we're in. I took the picture this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Isle of Wight ferry at a guess Getting geographically closer..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2013 Gosport Ferry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Slightly larger (and quicker) John. I'll reveal all later this evening if nobody gets it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4, 2013 Looks to bear a better than passing resemblance to Poole and a remarkable resemblance the Poole, South Deep and Anchorages chart so my bet is that it is alongside at Poole. Now the vessel is, again, a teaser but could it be a Condor vessel - a catamaran perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Very well spotted Mike. Condor Ferries were holding an "Open Ship" event today at Poole Quay and there was an opportunity to look around Condor Vitesse; even down in the engine room. The ship is powered by x4 Ruston engines from the same RK series (albeit considerably more powerful) that are in the Cl.56, so there is a rather tenuous link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer_London Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 An older picture - expecting this to be easy to identify: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Sarah Siddons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer_London Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Pretty close, correct railway, and maybe the stock in the background gave that away, or perhaps the round-topped Driver's Door immediately to the side of the driving position. I took the picture somewhere around 1985, while working on other stock in the same yard. But - not Sarah Siddons. Take a look at the Master Controller - a GEC product. This vehicle wasn't in passenger service by this time the picture was taken, and it was coming to the end of its years on Underground tracks. It still exists, on a preserved line, with a few modifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Having posted, I checked for photos of the cab of Sarah Sidons and realised that it didn't match. So my conclusion is former Metropolitan T stock, converted as a sleet locomotive and now preserved at the spa Valley Railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer_London Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Apologies for delay, was preparing a reply only to be disconnected every time. Had hoped to add more pictures and will do so when the internet is more receptive. . Pleased you've got there, well done. Yes, remnants of the LT-designated T Stock family. The Metropolitan designations were a little more individual, according to type and technical detail and LT made some changes to the fleet after taking over. I own up to taking a lot of interest in all aspects of the Metropolitan Railway. In their last days the remaining two Motor Coaches [which had only one traction equipment fitted where there used to be four] were formed with a modified flat wagon for clearing leaf residue, and were photographed at Neasden awaiting disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer_London Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 A footnote for modellers: The colors in the sunlit pictures are pretty representative, at least on my computer. After many years outdoors and not looked-after, LT Maroon turns greyish purple. You'll notice odd panels that have been touched up, and the inner end of the distant Motor Coach in the last picture was also rather more protected until the flat was inserted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Don't think we've had one of these yet..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icn Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Don't think we've had one of these yet..... Some form of Desiro? Either 444 or 450 based on the seat colour. What's the wooden thing on the right though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The wooden thing - is it like the boards carried on District line trains, supposedly for removing persons from live rail or so I'm told? Though personally I think its a paddle in case they overshoot at Portsmouth..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2013 The wooden thing - is it like the boards carried on District line trains, supposedly for removing persons from live rail or so I'm told? Though personally I think its a paddle in case they overshoot at Portsmouth..... And knowing the Southern (and its decendants) it is a hand me down from a 4 COR or 2 BIL via a 4VEP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yes it's a Cl.444. The wooden shoe paddles are used to lift the collector shoe off the 3rd rail to isolate the unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2013 The left hand of the two items is indeed a shoe paddle (other uses are available!) the object to the paddle's immediate right is the short circuiting bar for sorting out the third rail in an emergency but also very useful for hammering ice off of Electrostar doorsteps at six in the morning when you can't get the doors shut in a blizzard at Amberley.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted April 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2013 "The left hand of the two items is indeed a shoe paddle (other uses are available!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bayford Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Usefull for lifting buckeye couplers on ED's as well, and defendeing trains and playing depot cricket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Usefull for lifting buckeye couplers on ED's as well, and defendeing trains and playing depot cricket. Token apparatus as used at Bat and Ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
multiprinter Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The left hand of the two items is indeed a shoe paddle (other uses are available!) Do I detect that you've also had to make use of the paddle to defend yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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