Dave F more photos added 21 June from 1947 to 1955ish

[DaveF]

I've started scanning Dad's monochrome images which date from 1947 to around 1955.

 

At that time good film and printing paper were hard to get, as were cameras.  My apologies for the quality of some - there are quite a few too poor to use.

 

They are scanned from prints, the negatives are long gone.

 

He had good access as he had track permits for all the areas he normally visited.   Perhaps the fact that he knew George Dow among others helped!

 

Eventually they will be on flickr but so far I have scanned about half of the first of seven albums.  So I thought I'd put a few on here from time to time as I do them.  There are some nice liveries.

 

Cambridge B1 1948 JVol1189

 

Cambridge B2 61671 Royal Sovereign and B1 E1247 1948 JVol1191

 

Cambridge LMS CLass 5 5314 1948 JVol1200

 

Nottingham Victoria D3 62000 c1948

Note the crest on the tender is the LNER crest, applied in 1944. (Source LNER Steam at Grantham, Rev Cawston)

 

Nottingham London Road Junction 2Ps 40452 and another c1949 JVol1008

 

Nottingham London Road Junction 43040 c1949JVol1092

 

Trumpington 07 (WD) 63035 up goods 1948 JVol1235

 

Whitemoor yard LNER 8000 shunting c1948 JVol1267

 

 

More will follow from time to time.

 

David

 

Edited to improve dates of photos.

David

Edited June 21, 2013 by DaveF

[jwealleans]

Lovely shots of the old Spillers building.  I used to cycle past that every morning and if you hadn't known what it was you'd have gone and asked for a plate of what they were boiling up, it smelt that good...

[melmerby]

Nice shots. More please.

Nice to see an LNER WD renumbered by BR before it was put into 90000 series.

 

Being pedantic my information sources show 43040 wasn't built until July 1949 and 62000 didn't get it's BR number until Jan 50 (note "Cycling Lion" on tender)

 

Keith

Edited March 11, 2013 by melmerby

[DaveF]

Nice shots. More please.

Nice to see an LNER WD renumbered by BR before it was put into 90000 series.

 

Being pedantic my information sources show 43040 wasn't built until July 1949 and 62000 didn't get it's BR number until Jan 50 (note "Cycling Lion" on tender)

 

Keith

 

Keith,

 

Many thanks for the date information. Please do give me better dates whenever you know them, it's always useful.   Dad only  dated some of his earlier photos, and they are not in his albums in chronological order so I often have to make an (educated) guess.

 

David

[DaveF]

One more for this evening.

 

Nottingham Midland LMS Class 3 2-6-2T 40140 ecs c1949 JVol1093

 

David

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Great to see fresh images from the East Midlands.

Edited March 11, 2013 by Western Sunset

[JeffP]

Lovely stuff, keep it coming.

[t-b-g]

Your dad and my dad (or my uncle they both took photos and I am not sure whose is whose) must have been knocking about at Nottingham Victoria at pretty much the same time!

 

I have his rather poor shot of 62000 there in that livery at around the same time. I wonder if it spent some time there as a station pilot?

 

It is my favourite part of the world for railways so many thanks for posting.

 

Tony

[melmerby]

Your dad and my dad (or my uncle they both took photos and I am not sure whose is whose) must have been knocking about at Nottingham Victoria at pretty much the same time!

 

I have his rather poor shot of 62000 there in that livery at around the same time. I wonder if it spent some time there as a station pilot?

 

It is my favourite part of the world for railways so many thanks for posting.

 

Tony

As at 1/1/48 2000 (62000) was allocated to Grantham (again from my sources of research!)

It was withdrawn Oct 51 from there

 

Used on a local service to/from Nottingham?

 

Keith

Edited March 11, 2013 by melmerby

[DaveF]

As at 1/1/48 2000 (62000) was allocated to Grantham (again from my sources of research!)

It was withdrawn Oct 51 from there

 

Used on a local service to/from Nottingham?

 

Keith

 

I have a number of photos yet to be scanned of 2000 (62000) at Grantham.  I think Dad once told me it was often used on inspection saloon workings as well as some local passenger services.

 

David

[Guest Phil]

Excellent work Dave F.

for people like me who are often quite focussed on a particular area or region, it is really nice to look at something different. The D3 for example - had no idea such a class existed, although I believe there is a plan to build a replica 4-4-0 which maybe similarto this.

 

B2 "Royal Sovereign" looks very nice. I am guessing a B2is similar to a B1 maybe.

 

Nice stuff Dave and please feel free to "bore us" with many more !!

Edited March 12, 2013 by Phil

[melmerby]

62000 looks in pretty good condition, considering it hasn't too long to go.

The paintwork appears to be glossy.

I wonder what livery it was? It looks lined out from the photo.

It's one of those elderly survivors which made early BR so interesting.

 

Keith

[bobthesod4479]

Phil

good spot

indeed 61671 was a Thompson rebuild from the B17 Manchester City. Used on Royal train duties, until scrapping then nameplate was put on 61632 e Belvoir Castle ( another B2). Add to which KGV funeral train was hauled by 61617 yet another B2.

A lot of people are under the illusion that the B17 class were the 'Royal Engines' Nothing can be further from the truth. As far as i am awar no B17 was rostered as the Royal Engine. The LNER used two Clauds D16 8783 and 8787 and these were directly replaced by 61671 in April 1946. In fact the only 'Royal' connection is that KGV was asked by the LNER to name the first engine Sandringham. The reason behind thisi s that it was the intention to name the class after stately homes in the LNER region. However several owners did decline LNER overtures. The naming of the later B17/4 sub class as football clubs was a good move,It was suggested that the names of the four FA Cup semi finalists would be used, but there were some amendments during to  the build run. Newcastle Unted brief appearance being one of them. A story has the rounds on this but as yet i cannot find any substantive proof. however it is a good yarn. 

[DaveF]

62000 looks in pretty good condition, considering it hasn't too long to go.

The paintwork appears to be glossy.

I wonder what livery it was? It looks lined out from the photo.

It's one of those elderly survivors which made early BR so interesting.

 

Keith

 

LNER lined Green with BR crest.

 

David

[melmerby]

LNER lined Green with BR crest.

 

David

I thought it might be but at that date expected it to be black.

 

Keith

[pH]

I have a number of photos yet to be scanned of 2000 (62000) at Grantham.  I think Dad once told me it was often used on inspection saloon workings as well as some local passenger services.

 

David

 

From "Locomotives of British Railways" (Casserley and Asher):

 

62000: Class D3. GNR Ivatt 6'8" 4-4-0, built 1897. Formerly LNER 4075, it was modified in 1944 for working officers' saloons, repainted green and renumbered 2000. For a short time it carried the number 1.

 

Interesting pictures, David - did you select those ones specially, or are they all as good? Apart from those already mentioned, I like the double-chimney Ivatt 4MT. 

Edited March 12, 2013 by pH

[DaveF]

From "Locomotives of British Railways" (Casserley and Asher):

 

62000: Class D3. GNR Ivatt 6'8" 4-4-0, built 1897. Formerly LNER 4075, it was modified in 1944 for working officers' saloons, repainted green and renumbered 2000. For a short time it carried the number 1.

 

Interesting pictures, David - did you select those ones specially, or are they all as good? Apart from those already mentioned, I like the double-chimney Ivatt 4MT. 

Some are not very sharp, but there are many nice ones, especially in the albums I'll be doing later.

 

It's amazing what you can to do to old photos in Photoshop.

 

David

Edited March 12, 2013 by DaveF

[DaveF]

A few more images.

 

Cambridge B2 61671 Royal Sovereign Buffet car XP Cambridge to Kings X c1948 JVol1217

 

LNER buffet car interior c1948 JVol1307

 

Nottingham London Road Junction LMS 2P 40504 up parcels c1950 JVol1099

 

Trumpington J39 64776 Yarmouth to Liverpool St c1948 JVol1264

 

David

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Dave

 

Thanks for sharing these with us. I like the photo of 8000 shunting, not only because it is a diesel but the PO wagons in their wartime/postwar liveries of replacement planks and the owner details on the black panel in the bottom left hand corner. This was of course painted over and a P number applied soon after this photo was taken.

[DaveF]

2 more

 

Nottingham London Road Junction LMS 4F 4401 up goods 1947 JVol1038

 

Trent crossing bridge over river LMS Garratt c1949JVol1028

The bridge caries the goods lines over the River Trent south of Trent station.

 

David

[250BOB]

Dave,

Thankyou indeed for sharing these wonderful images with us.

Bob

[DaveF]

A few more for this afternoon.

 

Cambridge LNER B1 1114 and E4 2-4-0 1948 JVol1195

 

Grantham North Class 04/8 up iron ore hoppers c1951 JVol1163

 

March B1 being rerailed with jacks c1948 JVol1258

 

Nottingham Midland LMS Jubilee up ex pass c1951 JVol1044

 

Sorry about the speckling etc on some.

 

These are now also being added to my flickr site, address below in my signature.  They appear in the relevant sets.

 

David

[t-b-g]

As at 1/1/48 2000 (62000) was allocated to Grantham (again from my sources of research!)

It was withdrawn Oct 51 from there

 

Used on a local service to/from Nottingham?

 

Keith

 

Dad's photo shows the loco standing in the sidings at the back of Nottingham Victoria and I have seen at least one other shot of her apparently standing light engine in a platform there. That plus the odd lamp code (looks like Class K - pick up freight) made me wonder if she was pottering about the station and doing a bit of local trip working. Maybe filling in between Grantham locals. 

 

Cheers,

 

Tony

[DaveF]

A few more for today.

 

Bulwell Common Junction LNER K3 1975 Annesley to Bulwell Dido 1947 JVol1176

 

Nottingham Midland loco depot Compound 41079 on breakdown train c1949 JVol1346

 

Nottingham Victoria A5 69817 up light engine c1951 JVol1128

 

Nottingham Victoria B1 up ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1951 JVol1175

 

Trumpington V1 7676 ord pass Cambridge to Stratford 1948 JVol1233

 

David

[LNER4479]

A few more for this afternoon.

 

Grantham North Class 04 8 up iron ore hoppers c1951 JVol1163.jpg

Grantham North Class 04/8 up iron ore hoppers c1951 JVol1163

 

Gold dust for me David that picture, thanks very much for posting. Although slightly after my timeframe, the mix of hopper wagons interests me greatly as there are so few pictures of these trains in my era (which pre-dates the much more well-known iron-ore tippler wagons (that looked liked 16T mineral wagons) which dominated the BR era).  Interesting to see the loco tender first as well, I wonder if the picture taken during the time when the Grantham turntable was out of action (where the locos on the iron ore workings were turned, there being no turntable at High Dyke), prior to the triangle being installed?

Edited March 14, 2013 by LNER4479