Garethp8873 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have seen a photograph of one in the early 1970s with a class 08 in BR blue. Can't remember where the picture was online though. I think I have found the photo you maybe thinking of Jenny!! It's surprising to see this example has had the toolbox removed from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I think I have found the photo you maybe thinking of Jenny!! It's surprising to see this example has had the toolbox removed from it. Interestingly, none of those were the picture I remember seeing! Perhaps survivors were more long lived than we thought? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I found this on Paul Bartlett's site: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrdeptcoach/h3867DE66#h3867de66 After some searching though, this was the image I saw originally: http://www.railphotoarchive.org/rpc_zoom.php?img=0720024836000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Interestingly, none of those were the picture I remember seeing! Perhaps survivors were more long lived than we thought? Well the photo at the very bottom shows a Shunter truck attached to a Class 08 in 1985!! Just a shame we don't know the number... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The one at Burry Port yard lasted into the 1980s, when the yard shut. Paul Bartlett's published a photo, which I can't find at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I recently purchased the Bachmann Shunters Truck lettered for Margam Junc. However my layout is based on the Wellington (Shropshire) area and the recent purchase of a nice photo of the shunters truck allocated to Wellington set me of on how to rename. I made a request to John Isherwood of Cambridge Custom Transfers and he has now done a sheet for all the trucks as best we know. Attached is my partially completed rename and re number which still needs finishing. My question is that the truck I have a photo for has different brake gear with a long brake lever similar to an ordinary wagon. When were they rebuilt? I have the series of articles in Great Wester Journal by John Lewis (issues 19, 21, 24, 26, 29) but I must admit I am a little confused. I model in the BR period circa 1960-1967 and the articles tend to cover the GWR period. I have I missed something? David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) David, I think your post is better here. I don't know if your question is already answered in that thread. Edited May 1, 2015 by Ozexpatriate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Do they still use shunter's trucks or something similar ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
217 RIVER FLESK Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Do they still use shunter's trucks or something similar ? First of all you have to find a shunter! OK, so that was a flippant first response, now putting my serious head on, I haven't seen anything like a shunters truck / match wagon / brake van in use with a small shunter for years now, the last place that I used to see an 08 + brake van was sitting in the middle road at Bristol Temple Meads. Cheers, Mike C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Do they still use shunter's trucks or something similar ? Last time I passed Willesden engine shed there was an 08 with a converted container wagon used as a runner. But it was about five years ago. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 First of all you have to find a shunter! OK, so that was a flippant first response, now putting my serious head on, I haven't seen anything like a shunters truck / match wagon / brake van in use with a small shunter for years now, the last place that I used to see an 08 + brake van was sitting in the middle road at Bristol Temple Meads. Cheers, Mike C That was one of the last such duties, I believe; both loco and van carried Parcels Sector livery. I think their demise coincided with the end of TPO workings at Bristol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Last time I passed Willesden engine shed there was an 08 with a converted container wagon used as a runner. But it was about five years ago. Regards I think that old Conflat is used to translate the couplings so the 08 can couple to EMU's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passed Driver Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Hi All. A very fine looking model indeed, as usual with Bachmann . But I expected it to be heavier, as it seems a tool for derailments at the moment. I have been trying to figure out how I can add weight without messing about with it? Maybe I should have purchased a Hornby version?? They might be “ Clunkier and heavier?” without the bother of adding weight? Best wishes. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted November 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Hi All. A very fine looking model indeed, as usual with Bachmann . But I expected it to be heavier, as it seems a tool for derailments at the moment. I have been trying to figure out how I can add weight without messing about with it? Maybe I should have purchased a Hornby version?? They might be “ Clunkier and heavier?” without the bother of adding weight? Best wishes. Kevin Check the back to backs on your wheel sets to make sure they are correct this could cause derailment if they are wrong, if you want to add extra weight undo the 2 screws on the underside the tool box will come off you can pack it out with lead(roofing lead from a builders merchant) which is a lot better than the tiny bits of metal Bachmann have put in them and if you use it for shunting put a white cast shunters figure(Dart Castings) on the foot board for extra weight and general junk like a rerailing plate it all helps. Edit weight increased from 15 grams to 25 grams Edited November 14, 2017 by 81C 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Just done a rough count up (don't ask, its been long day!!!) of the number of separate parts in the Bachmann Shunters Truck (M3 version) and counted 53 including screws and couplings (47 if tension locks and NEM pockets discounted). If there is anything inside the tool box (weight) this number will obviously be higher. Not included in the counting the bag of extra detail. Quite incredible for such a small model. Buffers 4Coupling hook 2Wheels 4Axles 2Wheel Insulating Bushes 4Handrails 4Handrail supports 8Tension lock loop 2Tension lock hook 2NEM pocket 2NEM socket 2NEM socket screws 2Toolbox 1Lamp Irons on toolbox 4Toolbox screws 2Brake levers 2Brake shoe assembly 2Brake shoe cross shaft 1Main body moulding 1Step Boards 2 Edited January 17, 2018 by G-BOAF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just done a rough count up (don't ask, its been long day!!!) of the number of separate parts in the Bachmann Shunters Truck (M3 version) and counted 53 including screws and couplings (47 if tension locks and NEM pockets discounted). If there is anything inside the tool box (weight) this number will obviously be higher. Not included in the counting the bag of extra detail. Quite incredible for such a small model. Buffers 4 Coupling hook 2 Wheels 4 Axles 2 Wheel Insulating Bushes 4 Handrails 4 Handrail supports 8 Tension lock loop 2 Tension lock hook 2 NEM pocket 2 NEM socket 2 NEM socket screws 2 Toolbox 1 Lamp Irons on toolbox 4 Toolbox screws 2 Brake levers 2 Brake shoe assembly 2 Brake shoe cross shaft 1 Main body moulding 1 Step Boards 2 And at £5 a throw from Kernow, it would be a crime not to snap one up - you can't buy the Cambrian kit for that. My maths using your number of parts above? £0.09 a part! CoY 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I know I'm resurrecting a long dormant thread but does anyone know where I can get transfers to reallocate a shunters truck? I see Cambridge Custom Transfers mentioned up thread but all I can see on the website is the sheet for the GWR Cambrian kits? Google brings up no other results though in sure someone must do them Thanks everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 29, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2023 Railtec Models do bespoke names for toads so might be able to do shunters trucks too. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Railtec Models do bespoke names for toads so might be able to do shunters trucks too. Sorry to take this slightly off topic, but does anyone do the shunter's truck in 7mm...? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 29, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said: Sorry to take this slightly off topic, but does anyone do the shunter's truck in 7mm...? The old WEP kit for the M4/5 is still available https://www.walsallmodelindustries.co.uk/product.php/shunters_truck/?k=:::6594737 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 18 hours ago, gwrrob said: Railtec Models do bespoke names for toads so might be able to do shunters trucks too. Indeed. This link here should help: https://www.railtec-models.com/catalog.php?search_str=allocation+name If the allocation name needs to be slightly smaller to fit on the shunter's truck then that's no issue (though I'd need you to let me know). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 21 hours ago, WD0-6-0 said: I know I'm resurrecting a long dormant thread but does anyone know where I can get transfers to reallocate a shunters truck? I see Cambridge Custom Transfers mentioned up thread but all I can see on the website is the sheet for the GWR Cambrian kits? Google brings up no other results though in sure someone must do them Thanks everyone The Cambrian kit is of the same prototype, as is the Hornby version. Both M4 and M5. One to be careful of is that some had the vertical handrails such as this one which was the earlier diagram M3. Bachmann also made one of these. Photo Hattons. Also see here for details including known allocations. http://www.gwr.org.uk/noshunters.html Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, railtec-models said: Indeed. This link here should help: https://www.railtec-models.com/catalog.php?search_str=allocation+name If the allocation name needs to be slightly smaller to fit on the shunter's truck then that's no issue (though I'd need you to let me know). Thanks Steve, I'll have a look at that and see what will fit. 6 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: The Cambrian kit is of the same prototype, as is the Hornby version. Both M4 and M5. Also see here for details including known allocations. http://www.gwr.org.uk/noshunters.html Jason Thanks Jason, the CCT set will be correct but it includes the transfers for the other wagons too which I don't need. Thanks for the allocation link though, that'll be perfect for nailing down the details of the one I'm looking at! Thanks everyone for your help, I've got a few things to look at now! Thanks Rhys 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted August 31, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) On 29/08/2023 at 15:07, Rugd1022 said: does anyone do the shunter's truck in 7mm...? Scorpio do an etched one for about half the price of the WEP. The old ABS ones turn up on eBay periodically as well - MMP were selling the last of the stock off for peanuts not that long ago. Edited August 31, 2023 by Hal Nail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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