RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 hours ago, dunwurken said: Mmm. Undecided now!! I got her to move her arm! Does that help? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Ah - yes, does look more like former double track now ............. there's a crossing near Landsend Barton ( west of Colebrooke / Yeoford ) that might have a cattle creep alongside : the trees might match, too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) Close encounter at 45:00 in this video... EDIT: Also a pedestrian with a few bits loose in the sense department at 21:58... Edited February 21, 2021 by talisman56 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 12/02/2021 at 08:43, Wickham Green too said: Ah - yes, does look more like former double track now ............. there's a crossing near Landsend Barton ( west of Colebrooke / Yeoford ) that might have a cattle creep alongside : the trees might match, too. There is almost certainly a very good answer, but why do they need both a cattle creep and an occupation crossing? Perhaps their tractor is too high for the creep. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, phil_sutters said: There is almost certainly a very good answer, but why do they need both a cattle creep and an occupation crossing? Perhaps their tractor is too high for the creep. Also the tractors would be towing implements which would be way beyond the Creep Gauge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, phil_sutters said: There is almost certainly a very good answer, but why do they need both a cattle creep and an occupation crossing? Much the same reason they can justify a crossing and underpass at Manningtree. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 And Ely... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, RJS1977 said: And Ely... Crossing has been shut at Ely for a while now 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2021 One down under. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-26/women-killed-when-car-struck-by-express-train-at-level-crossing/13198344 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, PhilJ W said: One down under. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-26/women-killed-when-car-struck-by-express-train-at-level-crossing/13198344 I was drawn to the notion that motorists would be more likely to be controlled, safely, by a new set of traffic lights, at the nearby intersection [linked to the crossing timings???] presumably - rather than rely, solely, on the crossing lights and barriers. Given the number of cars driven through traffic lights at intersections, that may well be a sieve like theory. Hey, ho, it was put forward by a politician, so must be true. Julian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted February 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 hours ago, jcredfer said: I was drawn to the notion that motorists would be more likely to be controlled, safely, by a new set of traffic lights, at the nearby intersection [linked to the crossing timings???] presumably - rather than rely, solely, on the crossing lights and barriers. Given the number of cars driven through traffic lights at intersections, that may well be a sieve like theory. Hey, ho, it was put forward by a politician, so must be true. Julian Victoria has a better solution - expensive, but needs to be done. https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 If you have the space, that is... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2021 Press release from RAIB today: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/collision-at-smiths-lower-cefn-user-worked-crossing 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Surely, in this day and age, we have the technology to lock the gates remotely UNTIL the road user phone's the signaller for a release .................. all the guy needs to read, the,n are the words "PHONE SIGNALLER " ...... in English, Welsh .......... Polish, Romanian ............... etc. ....................... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Surely, in this day and age, we have the technology to lock the gates remotely UNTIL the road user phone's the signaller for a release .................. all the guy needs to read, the,n are the words "PHONE SIGNALLER " ...... in English, Welsh .......... Polish, Romanian ............... etc. ....................... The technology is easy. The cost however is likely to be very significant. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 That report concludes that the van driver was unfamiliar with that particular crossing and user worked crossings in general. The far side gate might have swung back as he was crossing and obliged him to stop foul of the line. The RAIB also said the instructions weren't clear and concise and that he probably didn't read some or all of it. Given that it's in Wales, there would have twice as much verbiage for him to look at if he had bothered. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnofwessex Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Is there an item on Level Crossings in the driving theory test? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I think you have to be able to recognise the road sign, and distinguish it from other signs like speed limits etc. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 When I took my test that wasn't too difficult as it had a picture of a gate or a steam loco with the words "Level Crossing" underneath. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, johnofwessex said: Is there an item on Level Crossings in the driving theory test? While a public level crossing should be included (and was in the practical driving - there was no theory test then - so far as I can remember when I took mine many, many years ago), would a private user worked crossing such as this and its significant differences to the public kind, be included? I suspect many drivers will never encounter such a thing and I would not be surprised if some of the examiners had not either. Personally, in 50 years I have never driven over a private user worked crossing, although I have walked over many (so am familiar with the requirements). Edited April 23, 2021 by eastglosmog 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 hours ago, johnofwessex said: Is there an item on Level Crossings in the driving theory test? If there is they would not relate to a user operated crossing. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Kris said: The technology is easy. The cost however is likely to be very significant. What's a mobile 'phone cost ? - it wouldn't need anything significantly more complex than that ... and some hardware to interface with the gate bolt. Yes, the cost of development might be significant - but so was the fall out from this one accident. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, johnofwessex said: Is there an item on Level Crossings in the driving theory test? Everyone's theory test has questions drawn from a bank, so one might turn up, and it is supposed to need full knowledge of the Highway Code... 49 minutes ago, Kris said: If there is they would not relate to a user operated crossing. ... so in principle one could get a question on what the Highway Code says about user-operated crossings. Edited April 23, 2021 by Compound2632 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 This is what happens when it really goes wrong on user worked crossings... Hungary 2 days ago... https://dailynewshungary.com/serious-train-accident-in-hungary-one-dead-several-injured-photos/ 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: What's a mobile 'phone cost ? - it wouldn't need anything significantly more complex than that ... and some hardware to interface with the gate bolt. Yes, the cost of development might be significant - but so was the fall out from this one accident. just having a phone is not a solution, you need a lock that can only be released by the signaller. A mag lock with remote release would do this. The parts for these would be £300 - £400 for a pair a gates, you would then need to add in the phone system to allow the release communication for say another £100. The real cost will be getting the electrical supply to each crossing. For many this will be many £1000's. You also need some system to register if the gates are open or closed (or cctv). Then you need to get the items installed so you have labour costs. Beyond this you also need to create the software to allow signallers to release and monitor multiple gates. This would cost thousands to develop but this cost will be spread over the thousands of crossings so the cost per crossing will be low. For an average crossing I suspect that you are looking at between £5000 and £10000. Now look at the number of crossings. There are some 4000 user worked crossings. If you were to do 1/2 of these then you suddenly have a project costing between £10 and £20 million. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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