RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 From the BBC today; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58378627 Even an argument with a WHR loco would usaully be won by the loco. Jonathan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 When did the WHR have its track taken over by NR? Very odd reporting! Andy G 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, uax6 said: When did the WHR have its track taken over by NR? Very odd reporting! Quote: "also said it was concerned following the reports from Porthmadog and of a number of other incidents in Wales." My bold... They are simply using that crossing as an example, and a well known one, rather than many other lesser known ones to make their point I feel. 16 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Even an argument with a WHR loco would usually be won by the loco. As the WHR mainly use the Garratts which are considerably bigger and more powerful than many SG locos I think saying "Even" is a little unfair! Welsh Pony perhaps?! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 Point taken. Perhaps you could try to drive between the bogies of a Garratt!!! Jonathan 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 Re that American video, a good demonstration of how long a train can take to stop even in emergency. If it had caught the trailer square on it could well have ended up quarter of a mile down the track. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Re that American video, a good demonstration of how long a train can take to stop even in emergency. If it had caught the trailer square on it could well have ended up quarter of a mile down the track. Jonathan But because he got away with it and was many metres away, long before the train arrived, he'll do it again in the same circumstances. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said: Re that American video, a good demonstration of how long a train can take to stop even in emergency. If it had caught the trailer square on it could well have ended up quarter of a mile down the track. Jonathan I actually thought the train stopped amazingly quickly TBH, I wondered if those tankers were empties. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: Re that American video, a good demonstration of how long a train can take to stop even in emergency. If it had caught the trailer square on it could well have ended up quarter of a mile down the track. Jonathan The idiot zig-zagged around the barriers. With that trailer in tow he wouldn't be able to back up in time if his exit was blocked. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) I've posted this one before. About 1 minute 20 secs from when the frantic horn until stopped, with a fully loaded box train. The car is rendered into it's various parts. Fortunately the people got out before impact. Edited August 30, 2021 by melmerby 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, melmerby said: I've posted this one before. About 1 minute 20 secs from when the frantic horn until stopped, with a fully loaded box train. The car is rendered into it's various parts. Fortunately the people got out before impact. I just hope no one was in that car. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, melmerby said: I've posted this one before. About 1 minute 20 secs from when the frantic horn until stopped, with a fully loaded box train. The car is rendered into it's various parts. Fortunately the people got out before impact. I wonder how much investigation is done in a situation like that in the USA? Over here something like that could take a long time, and, given its length, the train could be blocking more than 1 crossing for quite a while.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: I just hope no one was in that car. Per the original post: 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Fortunately the people got out before impact. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: I wonder how much investigation is done in a situation like that in the USA? Over here something like that could take a long time, and, given its length, the train could be blocking more than 1 crossing for quite a while.... Nothing like the UK They're so common, as the caption with the zig-zagging vehicle video says "1 vehicle strike every 4 hours!" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Let's cross a railroad with a humungous load before checking a train is coming. Edited August 30, 2021 by newbryford 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2021 Who takes responsibility in that situation, is it the HGV driver, the escort(s) or both as a team? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Jonboy said: Who takes responsibility in that situation, is it the HGV driver, the escort(s) or both as a team? If it was down to UK tabloids some sections of the UK press, it would be the train driver for not stopping in time or not steering around the obstruction............................ Edited August 30, 2021 by newbryford 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Jonboy said: Who takes responsibility in that situation, is it the HGV driver, the escort(s) or both as a team? I keep thinking of Hixton, at least this time the train appears to have won. I hope the train driver is OK. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 So they end up writing off a turbine blade, a semi and brought down some cables all because they didn't call in from the phone at the crossing. It could have been a lot worse. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 Do they have telephones on American level crossings? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 hours ago, PhilJ W said: The idiot zig-zagged around the barriers. With that trailer in tow he wouldn't be able to back up in time if his exit was blocked. Presumably he would have been able to see if his exit was blocked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Jonboy said: Who takes responsibility in that situation, is it the HGV driver, the escort(s) or both as a team? For outsize loads such as that, aren't they supposed to have a plan? One that includes stuff like a railway crossing, needing to be crossed at slow speed. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, melmerby said: So they end up writing off a turbine blade, a semi and brought down some cables all because they didn't call in from the phone at the crossing. It could have been a lot worse. Meanwhile a wind turbine is running rather unevenly! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Ramblin Rich said: I wonder how much investigation is done in a situation like that in the USA? Over here something like that could take a long time, and, given its length, the train could be blocking more than 1 crossing for quite a while.... In practical terms, what would need investigating? Car had no business being where it was, car got removed. No casualties. End of. So long as train driver isn't traumatised, carry on after checking loco is also fit. Very impressive demolition of that SUV, it would take high explosives to do a more comprehensive job! John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 hours ago, kevinlms said: Presumably he would have been able to see if his exit was blocked. Unless there's another idiot coming the other way and who tries to do the same thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Just for a change from the American links on the UK thread (!) here's one of a Slovakian Narrow Gauge incident where the car tried to couple up to the train! For those who want more background to the line it's a 760mm narrow gauge "light railway" along the lines of the Kinver LR, the stock is currently a power car and trailer though in the past it's had conventional steam and diesel loco haulage. It's quite a nice run, from the railway station several miles to a spa town, running alongside the road and in it's own track bed through the fields... I visited it many years ago but unfortunately nothing was running though they've got it back up and running again. Hopefully next year we may be able to get over and visit it. https://impulz.press/aktuality/nehoda-znamej-elektricky-v-trencianskych-tepliciach-uz-druha-skoda-v-tomto-roku1/?fbclid=IwAR2nRhntdd3s_CWQ3rcF0Wb-TrH0RNoUFYc4OaUDoyslcfSnkHg5mhHuj38 Edited September 2, 2021 by Hobby 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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