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His first big mistake was getting born!:(

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25 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Technically that particular event would have been somebody else's mistake ;)

File under 'should've worn a Johnny'....:D

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Not sure if this is level crossing related, or indeed a case of stupidity, but it keeps getting flagged up that an elderly male has been killed on the track today between Bristol TM and Worle, (incident near Parson St  i believe) 

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I don't recall any road crossings in the Parson Street area, the only footpath crossings seem to be bridges.

 

The only footpath that crosses the line on the level that I can find is about half a mile west of Nailsea and Backwell.

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20 hours ago, Porkscratching said:

Not sure if this is level crossing related, or indeed a case of stupidity, but it keeps getting flagged up that an elderly male has been killed on the track today between Bristol TM and Worle, (incident near Parson St  i believe) 

 

It was a suicide sadly.

 

Simon

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1 hour ago, St. Simon said:

 

It was a suicide sadly.

 

Simon

Ok thanks for clarifying that, I wondered what had occurred but couldn't find any more info at the time.

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47 minutes ago, EddieB said:

Not an example of misusing a crossing, tragically being wrongly advised.

No - read it again.  He was not wrongly advised but instead had made an incorrect assumption - for whatever reason - that the train had passed and informed the Signalman(ler) to that effect.  

 

This is basically an unavoidable situation as things presently stand with occupation or accommodation. crossing which have 'phones to the relevant signalbox because all the signalman can do if he/she is aware there is a train about is ask the crossing user to let him know/confirm when the train has passed.  This is a particular problem with long signal sections such as those between Swindon and Standish Jcn and there is - as far as I can see no easy answer to it without massive expenditure in relation to these crossings which tend to have limited road usage.   The ideal answer is to close the crossing  - as happened to one on one of my past areas - but this isn't always as simple as it sounds and the costs can run out of all proportion to the alternative of accepting the limited risk and leaving the crossing open.

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1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:

No - read it again.  He was not wrongly advised but instead had made an incorrect assumption - for whatever reason - that the train had passed and informed the Signalman(ler) to that effect.  

 

 

The user sounded like he was a responsible & experienced person, who sadly made a mistake and paid the ultimate price.

Far too often you read in this very thread, about people who apparently think that road/railway laws, don't apply to them or 'know better', by knowing the timetable or assuming they have 'enough time' to get across.

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Just seen this one, that genuinely had me scared... 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbjE7ZKpHxY

 

Still don't understand what possesses people to stop on the track though rather than drive through the lowered barrier ore reverse through the one that they've already damaged, surely you'd do everything you could to get out of the way, for your own sake if not for others...

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Two Darwin Award candidates including the guy on the pushbike that goes under the barriers............

 

 

 

 

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On 14/06/2019 at 11:08, The Stationmaster said:

No - read it again.  He was not wrongly advised but instead had made an incorrect assumption - for whatever reason - that the train had passed and informed the Signalman(ler) to that effect.  

 

This is basically an unavoidable situation as things presently stand with occupation or accommodation. crossing which have 'phones to the relevant signalbox because all the signalman can do if he/she is aware there is a train about is ask the crossing user to let him know/confirm when the train has passed.  This is a particular problem with long signal sections such as those between Swindon and Standish Jcn and there is - as far as I can see no easy answer to it without massive expenditure in relation to these crossings which tend to have limited road usage.   The ideal answer is to close the crossing  - as happened to one on one of my past areas - but this isn't always as simple as it sounds and the costs can run out of all proportion to the alternative of accepting the limited risk and leaving the crossing open.

 

One solution could be that the Signaller does not authorise the user to cross until they can see from TC indications that the train has definitely passed the LC, however that would cause (even) longer waiting times and possibly result in more misuse, particularly at busy times if there were minimal intervals between trains in section.

 

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7 hours ago, newbryford said:

Two Darwin Award candidates including the guy on the pushbike that goes under the barriers............

 

I think he only went under to talk to the driver of the vehicle. He went and had a look (to see what was coming as from later it was obvious he could have crossed if he'd wanted to?) and then went back. Looks like there was a station to the left hence the driver pulled back to the other line having seen where the train was... Shame if there'd been two! 

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9 hours ago, JDW said:

 

Still don't understand what possesses people to stop on the track though rather than drive through the lowered barrier ore reverse through the one that they've already damaged, surely you'd do everything you could to get out of the way, for your own sake if not for others...

 

Simple.  It's because they are stupid!

 

Hence the title of this thread. 

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I'm wondering if the brakes on the machine were defective. That swing to the left as it comes to a halt may not have been voluntary. Not that it's an excuse, mind. 

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5 minutes ago, PatB said:

I'm wondering if the brakes on the machine were defective. That swing to the left as it comes to a halt may not have been voluntary. Not that it's an excuse, mind. 

I think he was driving a bit above the maximum design speed for what looks to be a beet or forage harvester.

 

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9 hours ago, newbryford said:

Two Darwin Award candidates including the guy on the pushbike that goes under the barriers............

 

 

 

 

If the train was going to hit anything a bicycle would be better than a combine harvester. (Which was fitted for harvesting maize FYO).

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On 14/06/2019 at 11:08, The Stationmaster said:

No - read it again.  He was not wrongly advised but instead had made an incorrect assumption - for whatever reason - that the train had passed and informed the Signalman(ler) to that effect.  

 

This is basically an unavoidable situation as things presently stand with occupation or accommodation. crossing which have 'phones to the relevant signalbox because all the signalman can do if he/she is aware there is a train about is ask the crossing user to let him know/confirm when the train has passed.  This is a particular problem with long signal sections such as those between Swindon and Standish Jcn and there is - as far as I can see no easy answer to it without massive expenditure in relation to these crossings which tend to have limited road usage.   The ideal answer is to close the crossing  - as happened to one on one of my past areas - but this isn't always as simple as it sounds and the costs can run out of all proportion to the alternative of accepting the limited risk and leaving the crossing open.

Would it not be possible to create a device that detects a train at / near the crossing ( axle counter technology ) and which the bobby / bobbie can interrogate ( mobile phone technology ) to determine when something last passed that way ? ......... shouldn't cost too many meggabuxxx !

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50 minutes ago, PatB said:

I'm wondering if the brakes on the machine were defective. That swing to the left as it comes to a halt may not have been voluntary. Not that it's an excuse, mind. 

 

Agricultural vehicles usually have separate brake pedals for left and right to assist with tight turns in slippery fields. They are supposed to be locked together when on the highway so the brakes work in unison.  Bet he had not bothered to lock the pedals together and stamped on just the one pedal in panic...

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1 minute ago, Titan said:

 

Agricultural vehicles usually have separate brake pedals for left and right to assist with tight turns in slippery fields. They are supposed to be locked together when on the highway so the brakes work in unison.  Bet he had not bothered to lock the pedals together and stamped on just the one pedal in panic...

Not helped by the rear axle lifting off the road due to the braking.

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Some interesting other vids on the crossing accidents some good steam .

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