talisman56 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) EDIT: Reply about wrong bridge - well, there are three four separate bridges being discussed... Edited October 23, 2019 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, ejstubbs said: If you watch the video closely, a fair proportion of the trucks that hit the bridge seemed to be running the amber light anyway! (I think the one at about 3:30 was clearly pushing his luck.) One could get the impression that "white truck man" is the U.S. equivalent of "white van man" over here for poor decision making behind the wheel. Other videos of that same US bridge, show a lot of large caravans with their air-conditioners getting scraped off! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, talisman56 said: EDIT: Reply about wrong bridge - well, there are three four separate bridges being discussed... Most are the 11' 8" bridge which even has it's own website! http://11foot8.com/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 How about this thunderchunt from earlier this week? https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1186321055155195908/photo/1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 What about this? The kid is incredibly lucky to be alive! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-kent-50175060/level-crossing-train-narrowly-misses-cyclist 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, phil-b259 said: What about this? The kid is incredibly lucky to be alive! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-kent-50175060/level-crossing-train-narrowly-misses-cyclist I bet mummy had to wash his trousers! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 23/10/2019 at 10:59, melmerby said: This doesn't seem to have the same problem, maybe it's them country yokels https://goo.gl/maps/XPuEjNYUcNJywFZ96 Can't seem to get the Google Streetview car to position itself under the bridge. As much as I try. I'd say it looks possible. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) On 23/10/2019 at 10:14, Wickham Green said: There's obviously a detector that switches on the big illuminated sign telling overheight vehicles to turn - why not wire that into the 'stop' phase of the traffic lights too ??!? Or this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UgRUxkSzpw Edited October 24, 2019 by Damo666 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, phil-b259 said: What about this? The kid is incredibly lucky to be alive! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-kent-50175060/level-crossing-train-narrowly-misses-cyclist Looks a bit old to be described as a kid but on a bike far too small for him. At any rate another blithering idiot, although not quite as much as some because at least he looked a bit, not when and where he should've been and not very well but just enough to save his life. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 11 hours ago, melmerby said: I bet mummy had to wash his trousers! Feel for the driver, he had no way of knowing the outcome until stopped or reported to........idiots like that should cycle off cliffs, not under trains! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Damo666 said: Can't seem to get the Google Streetview car to position itself under the bridge. As much as I try. I'd say it looks possible. If you look really closely, you can see the camera equipment laying on the ground slightly crunched 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Reorte said: Looks a bit old to be described as a kid but on a bike far too small for him. At any rate another blithering idiot, although not quite as much as some because at least he looked a bit, not when and where he should've been and not very well but just enough to save his life. Doesn't know his green cross code He seemed to look left first, then right almost at the point the train arrives. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo666 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Damo666 said: Can't seem to get the Google Streetview car to position itself under the bridge. As much as I try. I'd say it looks possible. 7 hours ago, boxbrownie said: If you look really closely, you can see the camera equipment laying on the ground slightly crunched Ah, that'll be me then. Oops. Edited October 25, 2019 by Damo666 Silly typo mistake 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 23 October 2019 at 10:14, Wickham Green said: There's obviously a detector that switches on the big illuminated sign telling overheight vehicles to turn - why not wire that into the 'stop' phase of the traffic lights too ??!? If the US authorities are anything like those in the UK, getting a traffic authority to indulge in joined up thinking with the railway (railroad) operator is well nigh impossible, however desirable and logical it may be. It's not just with traffic lights either. The same situation exists with level crossings, where the best approach to barrier dodging involves alterations to the highway outside of the railway's boundary. Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jim.snowdon said: If the US authorities are anything like those in the UK, getting a traffic authority to indulge in joined up thinking with the railway (railroad) operator is well nigh impossible, however desirable and logical it may be. Jim Where does the Railway/railroad come into this? It's purely a road based problem. Also the traffic lights are linked to the overheight detector as mentioned earlier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, melmerby said: Where does the Railway/railroad come into this? It's purely a road based problem. Also the traffic lights are linked to the overheight detector as mentioned earlier. It's the railway that is trying to protect its own bridge. And, yes, I failed to spot the earlier post about the sign and the lights eventually being linked. That's down to the perils of not reading the posts every day and linking back to an earlier post. Jim 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 22 hours ago, phil-b259 said: What about this? The kid is incredibly lucky to be alive! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-kent-50175060/level-crossing-train-narrowly-misses-cyclist no helmet, looks like the bike was not roadworthy, teenager riding on the road illegally ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 hours ago, jim.snowdon said: It's the railway that is trying to protect its own bridge. And, yes, I failed to spot the earlier post about the sign and the lights eventually being linked. That's down to the perils of not reading the posts every day and linking back to an earlier post. Jim I wonder who is responsible for most of the bridges over roads in the US? The Railway/Railroad was often there first and the road came later, unlike the UK when it is the other way around. The UK railways were required to build and maintain a bridge (or sometimes a level crossing) over the highway if they wanted to cross it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 6 hours ago, duncan said: no helmet, looks like the bike was not roadworthy, teenager riding on the road illegally ? D*£&#ead on a Chinese mini bike by the looks of it. Lots of them over here too. Very common immediately after Christmas, then steadily reducing in numbers over the year as the machinery succumbs to poor build quality, 14 year old mechanical sympathy, lack of maintenance and dodgy "performance" modifications. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2019 19 hours ago, melmerby said: I wonder who is responsible for most of the bridges over roads in the US? The Railway/Railroad was often there first and the road came later, unlike the UK when it is the other way around. The UK railways were required to build and maintain a bridge (or sometimes a level crossing) over the highway if they wanted to cross it. There are a number of road over rail bridges that are not the responsibility of Network Rail because the road was built over the existing railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, 96701 said: There are a number of road over rail bridges that are not the responsibility of Network Rail because the road was built over the existing railway. The colour of the bridge number plate shows ownership! White Railway Red Private Blue Motorways Mark Saunders 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 hour ago, 96701 said: There are a number of road over rail bridges that are not the responsibility of Network Rail because the road was built over the existing railway. There are also a few rail over road bridges where the road came second. The Marchwood bypass under the Totton Hythe and Fawley line is an example. It was quite a tricky operation and provision was made for dualling the road and the railway (however unlikely the latter might be). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, 96701 said: There are a number of road over rail bridges that are not the responsibility of Network Rail because the road was built over the existing railway. Yes I know that. Motorways and suchlike. I assume the same if an existing railway has to have a road underbridge. The original bridges when the road was in place are the responsibility of the railways (now NR) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 My understanding was that maintenance was the responsibility of whatever goes over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, RJS1977 said: My understanding was that maintenance was the responsibility of whatever goes over the top. The basis rule is if you build it you maintain it! Mark Saunders Edited October 26, 2019 by Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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