Level crossing stupidity...

[Dagworth]

How did that wire fence ever pass a risk assessment? 

 

Andi

[boxbrownie]

1 minute ago, Compound2632 said:

 

The air bag mechanism isn't optimised for shocks in the vertical direction?

They are deployed during roll over, this impact just didn’t register as severe enough.....not enough G shock.

[Compound2632]

The car must have been going reasonably quickly to not just end up nose down in the ballast.

[grahame]

3 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

The air bag mechanism isn't optimised for shocks in the vertical direction?

 

Maybe. And odd that the undercarriage landing gear also doesn't appear to have been deployed. Had 'gear down' been selected? That'll be the first thing the crash investigators check.

;-)

 

 

[big jim]

4 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

The car must have been going reasonably quickly to not just end up nose down in the ballast.

And as pointed out on Twitter, no damage to the platform edge either, you would expect scraping if it was going slow enough to nose dive, hence why I too think it must have been going some! 

[bigherb]

Being where it is, is that one of the station staffs car?

[ajwffc]

this is the car park they started on in https://goo.gl/maps/xur4G8T5tgJFacfZ6

and the clean up 

 

[96701]

1 hour ago, ajwffc said:

this is the car park they started on in https://goo.gl/maps/xur4G8T5tgJFacfZ6

and the clean up 

 

So I assume that it has reversed onto the track.

[kevinlms]

6 hours ago, ajwffc said:

this is the car park they started on in https://goo.gl/maps/xur4G8T5tgJFacfZ6

and the clean up 

 

Someone must have pressed HARD on the loud pedal.

[ajwffc]

15 minutes ago, kevinlms said:

Someone must have pressed HARD on the loud pedal.

and keep it pressed 

[caradoc]

13 hours ago, Dagworth said:

How did that wire fence ever pass a risk assessment? 

 

Andi

 

Would it require a risk assessment ? The vehicle came from a car park, so a low-speed road, and the direction of travel is parallel to the railway, cars being parked against the fence. Although perhaps after this incident further precautions will be looked at ! 

 

13 hours ago, bigherb said:

Being where it is, is that one of the station staffs car?

 

Why should it be, it came from a public car park ?

 

8 hours ago, 96701 said:

So I assume that it has reversed onto the track.

 

No, driven directly forward from the  car park onto the line. 

 

Perhaps the driver has simply pressed the accelerator instead of the brake and then panicked, a not unknown scenario. 

 

[eastglosmog]

From the Google street view linked by ajwfcc, it looks like there is a concrete kerb at least 100mm high at the edge of the car park, so must have taken some welly to get over that.  (Our local station car park has Armco barriers in a similar location.)

[boxbrownie]

59 minutes ago, caradoc said:

 

 

Perhaps the driver has simply pressed the accelerator instead of the brake and then panicked, a not unknown scenario. 

 

Exactly so, no high speed needed just continuous mistaken pressing of the loud pedal, usually on an automatic driven by a certain demographic 

 

we we used to get many complaints after accidents that the vehicle “shot forward” even though the driver was “pressing the brake pedal” after much investigation there was never any evidence of the vehicle being able to drive itself .

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, eastglosmog said:

From the Google street view linked by ajwfcc, it looks like there is a concrete kerb at least 100mm high at the edge of the car park, so must have taken some welly to get over that.  ....

...... bounced in the air and landed on the track without even touching the platform ??!?

[boxbrownie]

12 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

...... bounced in the air and landed on the track without even touching the platform ??!?

But don’t you just love speculative threads? 

[PhilJ W]

Was it an automatic?

 

Edited October 15, 2020 by PhilJ W

[BoD]

1 hour ago, boxbrownie said:

But don’t you just love speculative threads? 

Took a wrong turn in Edinburg and was trying a 3 point turn?

Would explain a lot of the above.

[big jim]

2 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

But don’t you just love speculative threads? 

what did I start posting that tweet!

 

for fullness here is where the car entered the platform, no expert but looking at the tyre tracks it looks to be have been wheel spinning up the curve and through ‘the gravel trap’

 

 

[boxbrownie]

As before interesting to see if it was an auto.......then a “whoops” foot on the accel instead of brake would make sense.

 

Although looking in detail at the interior pictures it looks like a manual stick, but difficult to tell nowadays.......big door speakers though.......maybe it was a young inexperienced driver instead?

Edited October 15, 2020 by boxbrownie

[Hobby]

3 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Was it an automatic?

 

The accident certainly has all the hallmarks of such a gearshift!

Edited October 15, 2020 by Hobby

[keefer]

Not unknown for a pedal to get caught/stuck on a floor mat but still doesn't explain why they went forward instead of back!

Edited October 15, 2020 by keefer

[Hobby]

It's easy to put an auto in the wrong section and unlike a manual there nothing to stop you doing it like having to lift or depress the lever to get it into reverse. 

[kevinlms]

4 hours ago, big jim said:

what did I start posting that tweet!

 

for fullness here is where the car entered the platform, no expert but looking at the tyre tracks it looks to be have been wheel spinning up the curve and through ‘the gravel trap’

 

 

At least they missed the planter box!

[kevinlms]

4 hours ago, big jim said:

what did I start posting that tweet!

 

for fullness here is where the car entered the platform, no expert but looking at the tyre tracks it looks to be have been wheel spinning up the curve and through ‘the gravel trap’

 

 

There is a hole in the fence,  police are looking into it!

 

Waited years to say that!

[stewartingram]

2 hours ago, Hobby said:

It's easy to put an auto in the wrong section and unlike a manual there nothing to stop you doing it like having to lift or depress the lever to get it into reverse. 

Oh yes there is! My Rover 75, and its predeccesor, Rover 827, has a button to lift before moving the stick to reverse. And I had to drive a number of cars when fitting 2-way radio a few years ago, I don't remember any that didn't have one.