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2-6-0 No. 2535 of the B 205 class of 1881. This loco saw colliery service at Corrimal and Bulli collieries until mid 1971 and was then preserved by it's then owner AI&S or Australian Iron and Steel today known as Blue Scope Steel at Port Kembla. It was later obtained by Dorrigo for storage.

The loco is very similar to the "Galloping Alice" of the Midland and South Western Junction Railway.

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1923 and 1904 of the A 93-class 0-6-0 1877. These two locos were still at work in 1972 at Port Waratah locomotive depot. This class of loco lasted almost to the end of steam due to being able to run over very tightly curved lines and appallingly maintained track.

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Paul, sorry to rain on your parade, but RENFE 230-2033 started life as Norte 1903 and was built by Hanomag (3454/1900) in Germany.  There were twenty eight such locomotives, eighteen built by Hanomag and ten by Borsig.  (Takes nothing away from the photos, of course!)

 

The only 4-6-0s built by North British for Spain were to the order of the Oeste company, built in 1907 (Oeste 760-762) and 1909 (763-765).  They became RENFE 230.2059-64, of which 230.2059 (NBL 17647/1907) survives at Madrid Delicias museum.

 

Did you see Garratts at Tarragona?  (Which were built in Spain, so slightly off-topic here). Edit: I see from your photo stream that you did!

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Class 58 in Holland

 

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Dutch pseudo 08 in Holland...

 

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...and Shildon

 

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WD in the Dutch Railway Museum in Utrecht

 

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Class 56 in Hungary

 

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and a couple of 86's

 

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And I believe this is a WD that served both sides in WWII, having been part of the BEF, then captured at the fall of France, but now on the GWR

 

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Jon

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In the UK the GWR had Steam Rail Motors until they took a backward step and had Auto Trains. The LNER had Sentinel Steam Rail Motors. Here in Australia we have what looks like an Auto Train but is actually a Steam Rail Motor as the loco and coach are permanently coupled. It is affectionately known as the "Coffee Pot". It is currently undergoing a major overhaul which includes a new boiler. It is owned and maintained by the Pichi Richi Railway in South Australia.

 

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Such rail motors weren't unknown in the UK, but usually in the form of self-propelled inspection saloons.  The most famous was probably Drummond's "Bug" on the London & South Western Railway.

 

As you can imagine, the nickname "Coffee Pot" has been applied to a wide variety of small locomotives, especially vertical boiler types and to the Neilson-built inverted saddle tanks of the Great Eastern Railway (LNER class Y5).  Neilson supplied a similar locomotive to FC Andaluces in Spain, where it was given the alternative nickname translating as "Chocolate Box".

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Paul, sorry to rain on your parade, but RENFE 230-2033 started life as Norte 1903 and was built by Hanomag (3454/1900) in Germany.  There were twenty eight such locomotives, eighteen built by Hanomag and ten by Borsig.  (Takes nothing away from the photos, of course!)

 

The only 4-6-0s built by North British for Spain were to the order of the Oeste company, built in 1907 (Oeste 760-762) and 1909 (763-765).  They became RENFE 230.2059-64, of which 230.2059 (NBL 17647/1907) survives at Madrid Delicias museum.

 

Did you see Garratts at Tarragona?  (Which were built in Spain, so slightly off-topic here). Edit: I see from your photo stream that you did!

Thanks, I must have mis understood something I read later. I was 16 (just) when I took these.

Paul

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During a short visit to Nairobi, earlier this year, I had the chance to visit the railway museum. The museum is not really what we would expect and is just a collection of old steam locomotives and rolling stock, assembled in a yard, slowly rotting away.

 

In addition to the five Garretts, standing in the yard, the railway company has three working steam loco's over at the works, including a Garratt. They are available for viewing but only by appointment...I did try my luck but security wouldn't let me in!

 

However, it was very interesting and I took a few pics:

 

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The following three pics are of Tribal Class 29 'Masai of Kenya', built in 1956 at NDL, Glasgow

 

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Next are some Garratts built at Beyers in Gorton, Manchester. (one may be a Frenchy, built by Franco-Beige)

 

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The following shunter was used at Magadi Soda works until 1970

 

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KUR Edi class of 1926

 

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Some more to follow

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In addition to the loco's and stock, most of the infrastructure was provided by UK manufacturers.

 

Most of the following are from present day Nairobi station and not from the museum.

 

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Overseas?  How about under the sea?

 

Anyone have any information on the SS Thistlegorm?  I don't know much about it, but came across a thread on Reddit / Imgur about it here...

 

http://imgur.com/gallery/L3YK3

 

 

The sixth photo down certainly looks like a UK tender to me...

From an 8F destined for Iran, I believe.

How about this one in Italy (ex-WD to an LMS design):-

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It's on  a non-FS line that runs from Arezzo to Pratovecchia-Stia in Eastern Tuscany; it's not even their oldest loco, as they've a couple of electrics dating to the 1920s

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Apologies if someone has already mentioned it, but the prototype EM1/Class 76 ran in Holland whilst the Woodhead route was being built. it was the Dutch who gave the loco the name "Tommy".

 

Also no one has included the Metropolitan Railway's 1863 A Class 4-4-0T locos. These were to a design originally intended for the Tudela & Bilbao Railway in Spain, and were ordered by the Met after the GWR withdrew its locos and rolling stock. Not just a case of a British designed loco working overseas, or of a loco being exported once it was surplus to requirements in Britain, but a design that operated from new in both countries at the same time.

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Also no one has included the Metropolitan Railway's 1863 A Class 4-4-0T locos. These were to a design originally intended for the Tudela & Bilbao Railway in Spain, and were ordered by the Met after the GWR withdrew its locos and rolling stock. Not just a case of a British designed loco working overseas, or of a loco being exported once it was surplus to requirements in Britain, but a design that operated from new in both countries at the same time.

 

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It wasn't unusual for independent builders to supply common designs to railways at home and abroad.  In the case of the "Met Tanks", five were also built for the Rheinische bahn in Germany, besides others to the Metropolitan & District, LNWR, Midland and South Eastern.

 

Besides "IZARRA" at Bilbao, there are a further ninety British built steam locomotives (as well as a handful of diesels and electrics) preserved in Spain.

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Rather surprised no-one has yet mentioned India.

The inspiration behind this is pretty clear, just they left the 'L' off the lettering.

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The other NWR locos in the Delhi museum have the livery but perhaps got their inspiration elsewhere, Gorton might recognise this one.

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While this has a sort of affinity with the WD.

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Regards

Keith

 

 

 

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Thank you for posting that photo of "Izarra", i didn't know that any of the Tudela & Bilbao locos had been "preserved".

 

I've taken the liberty of creating the composite below. The photo of Met No 23 comes from the LT Museum's Collections web pages.

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Three Drewry shunters were exported to Eritrea in 1941. It seems two still survive, one awaiting a new engine at Asmara, and the other still servicable at Massawa.

 

http://www.trainweb.org/eritrean/scrapbook/what/motive_power/drewry-diesels.html

 

http://www.ferroviaeritrea.it/the_drewery_car___preston_london.htm

 

Despite going there last year, I failed to take any shots of them! Bit of a way to go back just for a couple of photos.

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