RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted May 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2021 Hall class 5998 Trevor Hall and still in wartime black, does the honours on an up parcels service featuring the Hornby GBL. Now Hornby/ Bachmann et al can we have a GWR vehicle to this standard please. 20 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 hours ago, gwrrob said: Hall class 5998 Trevor Hall and still in wartime black, does the honours on an up parcels service featuring the Hornby GBL. Now Hornby/ Bachmann et al can we have a GWR vehicle to this standard please. That Hornby latest bogie van looks very impressive, Robin, Thanks for showing it. Decades ago, I detailed an original Hornby one using the Roxey components. I just fitted what was provided, including the 'flat-topped' oval buffers. I see the latest Hornby one has round buffers, so are the buffers on my old one incorrect I wonder? Regards, Tony. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted May 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: That Hornby latest bogie van looks very impressive, Robin, Thanks for showing it. Decades ago, I detailed an original Hornby one using the Roxey components. I just fitted what was provided, including the 'flat-topped' oval buffers. I see the latest Hornby one has round buffers, so are the buffers on my old one incorrect I wonder? Regards, Tony. AIUI the clipped buffers were confined to the shorter varieties of these vans. The round ones are fine for the 53' 3" diagrams portrayed by Hornby's new models. John 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted May 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2021 Hall class 5998 Trevor Hall rounds the curve with an up parcels service. 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) On 07/05/2021 at 18:26, toboldlygo said: Meanwhile at 'the Works' @gwrrob's Wartime Black 46xx breaks cover after a few upgrades On 07/05/2021 at 21:38, 46444 said: Nice work and attention to detail with the RT Sanding Lever rods and running plate handrails It is looking very nice and purely by chance, I am upgrading a Bachmann 8750 right now, at the same time as you, almost in parallelogram, as it were. In fact, I've just stopped and am having a break for the purposes of letting some epoxy cure and consuming a herbal tea, but I'm afraid that I feel a minor rant coming on. In general terms, although I think that the Bachmann 57XX and 8750 models are still very good, when compared with their 94XX and the Rapido 16XX, they are beginning to look a little dated. I'm doing everything that you seem to be doing in your photos of Robin's loco, but I am also having to replace some of the shorter handrails, because the originals weren't seated very well and the handrail knobs appear a bit large, even when compared with another, supposedly identical Bachmann 8750 that I have. As such, I am prompted to offer the remark, 'just think what the likes of Accurascale, Rapido or even Bachmann themselves could do, if an upgraded model was produced with new tooling'. Does anyone have their ear? I doubt that Rapido will listen to me, however, given the venomous bile I spouted a few weeks ago about the design of the 16XX. That said, the basics of the existing pannier, even going back to the original 57XX versions produced by Mainline are so good, that I feel sure that this is why the likes of Mitchell or Finney never produced an etched kit version (of course, that may be complete boll*cks, and one of 'em might have been on the verge of doing one, when they were called down for tea, to avoid the fishcakes going cold or some such). On a more specific note, for the first time, I am also using the RT Models sanding etches on this particular pannier. I realised quite early on, however, that their etched rods are not long enough! They are about 3mm too short, so I am probably going to have to use up a second etch and use material from the second one, to lengthen the rods in the first one. That is rather frustrating. I will now conclude this minor rant here, but I am still enjoying my herbal tea. Edited May 10, 2021 by Captain Kernow Worplesdon. 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: It is looking very nice and purely by chance, I am upgrading a Bachmann 8750 right now, at the same time as you, almost in parallelogram, as it were. In fact, I've just stopped and am having a break for the purposes of letting some epoxy cure and consuming a herbal tea, but I'm afraid that I feel a minor rant coming on. In general terms, although I think that the Bachmann 57XX and 8750 models are still very good, when compared with their 94XX and the Rapido 16XX, they are beginning to look a little dated. I'm doing everything that you seem to be doing in your photos of Robin's loco, but I am also having to replace some of the shorter handrails, because the originals weren't seated very well and the handrail knobs appear a bit large, even when compared with another, supposedly identical Bachmann 8750 that I have. As such, I am prompted to offer the remark, 'just think what the likes of Accurascale, Rapido or even Bachmann themselves could do, if an upgraded model was produced with new tooling'. Does anyone have their ear? I doubt that Rapido will listen to me, however, given the venomous bile I spouted a few weeks ago about the design of the 16XX. That said, the basics of the existing pannier, even going back to the original 57XX versions produced by Mainline are so good, that I feel sure that this is why the likes of Mitchell or Finney never produced an etched kit version (of course, that may be complete boll*cks, and one of 'em might have been on the verge of doing one, when they were called down for tea, to avoid the fishcakes going cold or some such). On a more specific note, for the first time, I am also using the RT Models sanding etches on this particular pannier. I realised quite early on, however, that their etched rods are not long enough! They are about 3mm too short, so I am probably going to have to use up a second etch and use material from the second one, to lengthen the rods in the first one. That is rather frustrating. I will now conclude this minor rant here, but I am still enjoying my herbal tea. I think you will find the rods are long enough just the lid of the sandbox is to far forward, not over the middle of container. I cut the lid off mine and moved it quite easily to both sides. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, KNP said: I think you will find the rods are long enough just the lid of the sandbox is to far forward, not over the middle of container. I cut the lid off mine and moved it quite easily to both sides. Thanks, that's useful. I was just finishing my herbal tea when I read that. Will now check a scale drawing and then lie down in a darkened room! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 I find all this talk of Panniers quite exhilarating. Rob. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: I find all this talk of Panniers quite exhilarating. Rob. I know you're quite partial to a bit of weathered wood too Rob. A LMS long low wagon coming soon. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, gwrrob said: I know you're quite partial to a bit of weathered wood too Rob. A LMS long low wagon coming soon. Nothing better than a bit of wood in the evening. Splendid example. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: Thanks, that's useful. I was just finishing my herbal tea when I read that. Will now check a scale drawing and then lie down in a darkened room! I was unable to find a scale drawing in the Russell book, which showed the sand box linkages and the tops of the sand boxes, but I checked a load of photos in one of my Pannier Papers and calculated how far back to move the sand box lids, which is now in progress. A most timely tip, KNP, so many thanks. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: I find all this talk of Panniers quite exhilarating. Rob. 10 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Nothing better than a bit of wood in the evening. Splendid example. Rather than make an attempt at humour regarding things Western I think I'll just quietly form a splinter group and branch out into something else. 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Mick Bonwick said: Rather than make an attempt at humour regarding things Western I think I'll just quietly form a splinter group and branch out into something else. Don't go out on a limb.. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted May 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2021 46 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Nothing better than a bit of wood in the evening. Splendid example. Someone's been at the 'special' herbal tea 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Don't go out on a limb.. I suspect he's twigged that. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Oldddudders said: I suspect he's twigged that. I think we had better leaf it there..... 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 Nothing like the bark of a pannier is there? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Limpley Stoker said: Nothing like the bark of a pannier is there? Coming soon..... 2 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted May 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, gwrrob said: Coming soon..... Friday - if the RAF can parachute it in 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Limpley Stoker said: Nothing like the bark of a pannier is there? The bark of a terrier? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, St Enodoc said: The bark of a terrier? Ah but a Pannier has never sunk it's teethe into my leg. A better class of bark, obviously. TONY 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 10/05/2021 at 19:55, NHY 581 said: Don't go out on a liamb.. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted May 12, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2021 20 hours ago, toboldlygo said: Friday - if the RAF can parachute it in Castle class 5077 Fairey Battle does the honours. 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gwrrob said: Castle class 5077 Fairey Battle does the honours. Parachutes where used a lot from Fairey Battles... ... if they were lucky Edited May 12, 2021 by toboldlygo 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post toboldlygo Posted May 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) After an incredible amount of swearing (but no 3rd degree burns, fortunately) - I've succeeded in building a Frogmore AA6 Permanent Way Van.. Now the fun of cleaning up the exterior for paint can begin... Edited May 12, 2021 by toboldlygo text 15 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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