RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: My choices are: Cornish pastie, a pint of Tribute and a side order of no passing seagulls. Make that a pint of ‘Proper Job’ and I’m with you! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Pendennis said: I certainly wouldn't pay that sort of money for a Dapol 4-wheel van. I thought the mini-polls talked about a realistic price! Hello Pendennis I know you have your tongue slightly in cheek there, but I thought a small clarification might help... We use the term 'affordable prices' as opposed to 'realistic prices'. It is impossible to be precise but - by 'affordable prices' - we are looking at what has gone before in a similar vein (excluding highly specialised limited editions etc). Brian 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 16 hours ago, The Fatadder said: Something doesnt look quite right to my eyes, though its possibly the hideous NEM coupling pockets distorting the view. Will be interesting to see one with the roof repainted (and not washed out by the lighting). £36 is also far too expensive for a short 2 axle van.... Hi Rich But it is G*R and they know people with the inability to bung together a Ratio kit will pay £36 for an iconic G*R wagon. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: My choices are: Cornish pastie, a pint of Tribute and a side order of no passing seagulls. Make that no Seagulls 'passing', as they often do with frightening accuracy. They need to clear their system of Sand. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, BMacdermott said: Hello Pendennis I know you have your tongue slightly in cheek there, but I thought a small clarification might help... We use the term 'affordable prices' as opposed to 'realistic prices'. It is impossible to be precise but - by 'affordable prices' - we are looking at what has gone before in a similar vein (excluding highly specialised limited editions etc). Brian Apologies Brian. In my opinion it is not a realistic price; as to being affordable, maybe for some but although my model railway budget is fairly elastic, there would be much higher priorities for £37. And there are three wagons in each livery, I wonder if Rails are hoping people will buy a set of all three - £110+, eye-watering? This could be a double-edged sword; will another manufacturer jump on the bandwagon and produce a better injection moulded model or will this be a spoiler? Martin 3 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 Hello Martin I am in the same position as you... I, too, can afford £37.00 out of my allocated model railway budget but would wish to spend that £37.00 on a higher priority item for me. It will still therefore be affordable to many even if some might consider it 'an unrealistic price'. Brian 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 21/07/2021 at 23:48, brianusa said: surely time to return to Topics at Brent and GW trains Not quite and not the devil's pannier [4666] but here's 4679 on some SR stock heading east. 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Pendennis said: Apologies Brian. In my opinion it is not a realistic price; as to being affordable, maybe for some but although my model railway budget is fairly elastic, there would be much higher priorities for £37. And there are three wagons in each livery, I wonder if Rails are hoping people will buy a set of all three - £110+, eye-watering? This could be a double-edged sword; will another manufacturer jump on the bandwagon and produce a better injection moulded model or will this be a spoiler? Martin I doubt it will be a spoiler - it's a very niche method of manufacture using, so i understand from the blurb, a variant on the 'normal' 3-D printing process so it is not suitable for mass market levels of production and it isn't cheap. Hence it will result in a relatively high price and an equally inevitable small market . I presume that - as previously - Dapol's involvement is simply 'assembly'. (i.e adding the wheelsets and buffer heads - and possibly the NEM pockets? - the rest is no doubt a single print) and probably painting/decoration and putting it in a box. So inevitably something like this won't be coming along at mass market prices which leaves that area open for those who wid sh to go into the tooling cosy ts and production that enable their product to sell at mass market prices. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Not quite and not the devil's pannier [4666] but here's 4679 on some SR stock heading east. Are those coaches not 'offensive' to the innocent Pannier? I think this is just another hint at the conversion to Halwiil Junctionitis. P 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, gwrrob said: Not quite and not the devil's pannier [4666] but here's 4679 on some SR stock heading east. Must be very affluent down there, that's a lot of 1st class accommodation Old Fruit! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mallard60022 said: Are those coaches not 'offensive' to the innocent Pannier? I think this is just another hint at the conversion to Halwiil Junctionitis. P That many SR coaches could easily push a Pannier (which have been proven elsewhere to be unsteady on their feet) over the edge. Could lead to another unfortunate Pannier related incident. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: That many SR coaches could easily push a Pannier (which have been proven elsewhere to be unsteady on their feet) over the edge. Could lead to another unfortunate Pannier related incident. A truly dire prospect. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: That many SR coaches could easily push a Pannier (which have been proven elsewhere to be unsteady on their feet) over the edge. Could lead to another unfortunate Pannier related incident. And here is yet another example of how fans of the lesser railways don't really understand the superior GWR - Panniers have wheels, not feet. 1 1 1 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: I doubt it will be a spoiler - it's a very niche method of manufacture using, so i understand from the blurb, a variant on the 'normal' 3-D printing process so it is not suitable for mass market levels of production and it isn't cheap. Hence it will result in a relatively high price and an equally inevitable small market . I presume that - as previously - Dapol's involvement is simply 'assembly'. (i.e adding the wheelsets and buffer heads - and possibly the NEM pockets? - the rest is no doubt a single print) and probably painting/decoration and putting it in a box. So inevitably something like this won't be coming along at mass market prices which leaves that area open for those who wid sh to go into the tooling cosy ts and production that enable their product to sell at mass market prices. I agree Mike, I think it's a case that nobody so far has enough confidence that a RTR injection moulded model will sell in enough numbers to cover the mould costs. The 3d printed variant enables a small number to be produced. The higher cost reflects this production method. If folk really want one then they have to decide whether the price is worth it or wait in the hope of a mass produced RTR offering arriving later, perhaps, maybe. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Stubby47 said: And here is yet another example of how fans of the lesser railways don't really understand the superior GWR - Panniers have wheels, not feet. Might be steadier if they had feet. Perhaps that's the problem? 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold checkrail Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: So inevitably something like this won't be coming along at mass market prices which leaves that area open for those who wid sh to go into the tooling cosy ts and production that enable their product to sell at mass market prices. Yes, and some do. Oxford Rail is obviously expecting its forthcoming injection moulded GER van to make them money at £14.95 a pop, for what I'd consider a somewhat more obscure prototype (though GER/LNER fans would no doubt demur!) 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, checkrail said: Oxford Rail is obviously expecting its forthcoming injection moulded GER van to make them money at £14.95 a pop, Indeed John and I have high hopes of these and they could just turn out to be the bargain of the year. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: Must be very affluent down there, that's a lot of 1st class accommodation Old Fruit! South Devon is well known to be effluent - well that's how I read it. 1 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: South Devon is well known to be effluent - well that's how I read it. East Debun is posh though, specially east of Exeter. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2021 Final Call for Votes GWR 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.6: Freight Vehicles (excl Vehicle Carriers & ‘Heavy Duty’) Hello everyone A reminder that your 'Polling Station' closes at 17.00 with Results expected tomorrow. If you haven't already voted, here’s what to do… 1 You may vote for any or all of the items listed plus suggestions at 11 & 12 (if you so wish). 2 They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR at ‘affordable prices’. 3 Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7 – with comments and explanations following. 4 If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations. Brake Van 1 Brake Van – 4-wheel Vacuum Braked (Diag.AA21 of 1939) Bogie Bolster 2 Bogie Bolster A Wagon – Macaw H 20-ton (1927) 3 Bogie Bolster C Wagon – Macaw B 30-ton (1907) Cattle, Grain & Mineral 4 Cattle Wagon – 11ft wheelbase (eg Diag.W1) 5 Grain Wagon – Grano (Diag.V25 of 1935) 6 Mineral Wagon – ‘Felix Pole’ (eg Diag.N32 of 1933) Opens 7 Open Wagons – 16ft, 9ft wheelbase, with/without Sheet Support (Diags. between O3 and O25, 1904-1926) 8 Open Wagons – 17ft 6in, 10ft wheelbase, with/without Sheet Support (Diags. between O31 and O42, 1932-BR days) 9 Open Shock Wagon (Diag.O44 of 1939) Conflat 10 Conflat A Wagon (Diag.H10 of 1944, inc BR Diag.1/061 etc of 1950 on) 11 Containers There are too many to list for you to vote upon. If you want to see any particular Container made, please give details, preferably with a GWR code, such as A1, AF1, BD1 etc. A good point of reference is pp218-219 of A History of GWR Goods Wagons, New Edition Combining Parts 1 & 2 by Atkins, Beard et al. 12 Your suggestions of any wagons not covered in this, earlier or forthcoming Mini-Polls Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will acknowledge receipt of your vote via the ‘Thx’ tick box. Brian (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Rob’s thread only and neither RMweb nor The 00 Wishlist Poll Team are specifically involved, apart from me, John, Chris and Ian in our ‘personal capacities’.) 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenL Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Thanks again Brian, Robin and team. I'd like to vote for 1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10. For 11, I'd buy any GWR container at an affordable price but I'd be particularly keen on any of the meat carrying varieties. For 12, it would have to be the O13 china clay wagon. All the best, Ben 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrox Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 My votes are for 1, 8, 9, &10. Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but a Cordon (9 tanks) wagon would get my vote. Cheers & thanks. Pete 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2021 Hello Pete The Cordon is coming up in Mini-Poll No.8: Departmental Stock. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2021 Hi Brian, 4-11 inclusive for me, and any containers that aren't already available will do just fine.... John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Brian, I would purchase any and all of 1 to 10 inclusive. In terms of 12) Other Wagons - we need a Lowmac, ideally an earlier diagram with rounded curves, not the later 'orrible angular ones. Also, some crocodiles; the Bachmann (nee Mainline) crocodile scrubs up quite well, but as they came in varying lengths, I would love to see a longer one, as there aren't even any kits for these iirc. Thanks CoY 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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