RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, BMacdermott said: Thanks Mike I won't actually be buying the Mink so my query was more in response to John's comment of makers using 'generic' underframes and whether Rails have 'done it properly'. Brian I do know that it was all done from scratch Brian with no use of any previous r-t-r model components. The 3-D print includes the underframe and brakegear which meant that only one combination of the variants of brakegear, axleboxes, springs, and body, was eventually chosen out of at least 8 known to have existed. Edited July 30, 2021 by The Stationmaster correct typo 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Did people in GWR HQ have a competition to find the most stupid name for a Van or Wagon? WTF was a Hydra? Dear Mr Duck, Just to edjumacate you in all fings GW, a Hydra is a well wagon. https://didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/article.php/224/no-42193-hydra-d-well-wagon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 How about "Termite", apparently a third class coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I need to get my mind around Hydra liveries, being NPCCS but (strangely) carrying goods series numbers. The G22 build window indicates they would have been in crimson lake when built, assuming they were classified as passenger vehicles at that time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoombeTown Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: The problem with both the Dapol and Bachmann van underframes is that they are made with full-width headstocks to suit BR vans that lack corner plates/strapping below body level. GWR vans that do possess this feature therefore have to be made over-wide to fit the chassis. This is nothing new, it's been going on since the days of Hornby Dublo, and has been perpetuated by everybody else since. What's needed is a different r-t-r underframe that will fit beneath new scale-width GWR bodies. John Thanks John, as Brian pointed out I'd actually got my bodies and underframe confused for a moment. But if both are wrong it obviously furthers the cause for an all GWR van range! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 30, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 A busy weekend in prospect and plenty to shew you over the next few days. I have my finished LMS D1666 wagon and it's back from weathering and decals fitted by @toboldlygo and seen here. This was the Cambrian kit and is one of a pair I've recently built. 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 25/07/2021 at 13:34, gwrrob said: A lot of talk here and elsewhere on the cost of the new Rail's iron mink. Here we see a couple of Parkside/Peco Z4 gunpowder vans, currently on loan from @46444 of this parish. This is the model Rapido are near to releasing I believe. Also in these photos is my latest cheap and cheerful build and this is the Cambrian kit for the LMS D1666, of which I'm finishing it in bauxite and will be rated 13T. @BenL provided me with a couple of photos of these uprated during the war. I like the finish on the GPVs. My only criticism would be the buffer shanks, they should be painted grey like the rest of the wagon. The self contained buffers weren't hydraulic. Edited July 30, 2021 by 57xx 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 hours ago, BMacdermott said: Hello Neal We could have supplied a 'mini-Guide' along the lines of what we did with the 'main' Wishlist Poll, but felt that - for this audience - it was more productive for you to 'get your thinking caps on'. That seems to be working to good advantage. Brian I think it’s better without the guide…. Every week, the GWR wagon bible comes off its shelf and I get lost in all the possible wagons. My particular bible was published in I think 2013 as a combined book. I still have the original books from the late 70’s; bought in a remaindered shop! Who would have thought its successor would be so thumbed, so many years later. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Miss Prism said: I need to get my mind around Hydra liveries, being NPCCS but (strangely) carrying goods series numbers. The G22 build window indicates they would have been in crimson lake when built, assuming they were classified as passenger vehicles at that time. Really good to hear from you Miis P. Sharing your wealth of knowledge with us again, looks like you're on the way to a fine recovery.............Best Wishes from Oz. Rgds.........Mike 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 30, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 Another wagon finished and again LMS is this diagram 1674 bolster wagon from a Five79 kit. This will probably run with with my TMC double bolsters . A lovely kit and I would probably build another one. 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 31, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 A BR 16xx , Newton's 1608, has now left the works and is ready for freight duties as seen in various photos on the west of England mainline in the mid 50s. I plan to always run this bunker first and have shortened the coupling considerably to narrow the gap with the wagon. It's scrubbed well after the woes with it experienced by @toboldlygo and the assembly issues. More anon. 25 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 Final Call for Votes - GWR 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.7: Vehicle Carriers & ‘Heavy Duty’ Hello everyone A reminder that your 'Polling Station' closes at 1700 today with Results expected tomorrow. If you haven't already voted, here’s what to do… 1. You may vote for any or all of the items listed plus suggestions at 13 (if you so wish). 2. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR at ‘affordable prices’. 3. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7 – with comments and explanations following. 4. If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations. Carriage Trucks 1 Covered Carriage Truck – Python (end doors, vac fitted. Diags.P13, 14, 19, 20) 2 Open Carriage Truck – Scorpion (open body, vac fitted. eg Diag.P15) 3 Open Carriage Truck – Serpent C (open body, some used for containers. eg Diag.G21) Motor Car Vans 4 Motor Car Van – Asmo (end doors, vac fitted, long 33ft. Diag.G26) 5 Motor Car Van – Damo A (end doors, vac fitted, short, 20ft. Diag.G24) 6 Motor Car Van – Damo B (end doors, vac fitted, medium 30ft. Diag.G25) 7 Motor Car Van – Mogo (end doors, vac fitted, Diags.V23, G31 & G43 Plywood) Heavy Duty 8 Girder Wagon Set – Pollen (Diags.A6, A9, A10 of 1909) 9 Steam Road Roller & Water Cart Wagon (shallow well. Diags.F1-4) 10 Well Wagon – Crocodile (various 1892 onwards) 11 Well Wagon – Hydra D (vac fitted. Diag.G22) 12 Well Wagon – Loriot (various, Loriot L preserved. eg Diags.G1, G13) 13. Your suggestions of any ‘vehicle carrier’ or ‘heavy duty’ wagon not listed. Please note that suggestions for the Coral A Glass Wagon, Aero Wagon and Gane A were logged in the previous Mini-Poll. Get your thinking caps on and get voting! I will acknowledge receipt of your vote via the ‘Thx’ tick box. Brian (Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Rob’s thread only and neither RMweb nor The 00 Wishlist Poll Team are specifically involved, apart from me, John, Chris and Ian in our ‘personal capacities’.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2021 11 please Brian, just because I can and it is the most weird name I can see, thanks. ATB Phil 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 31, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 1608 heads west with a short freight mainly consisting of 16 ton mineral wagons. 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted July 31, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 It never crossed my mind when I posted these photos this morning that the leading wagon was weathered by Mick @Mick Bonwick and I've just heard he's passed away. Words escape me at the moment. 4 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Bridge Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 It’s lovely to realise you have an example of his skills to cherish along with his memory. My condolences for the loss of a friend. Rich. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 For me I’d like to see 1. Python - a useful van . Monty had one. 7. V23 etc .As has been said, an accurate Mogo 9. F1-4. A suitable transport for steam ploughing engines just made it before the rugby - I mean deadline. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 I know I'm only an ignorant Southern cove, but I am confused. Miss Prism, whose recent return from medical supervision is a cause for rejoicing, has indicated that a Hydra was NPCCS, yet it seems to have been an open well-wagon? Clearly Swindon did things differently? Have I missed some point by quite some margin? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 With all the names the GWR use to give freight & NPCCS stock - was there ever a Newt, Carp or Goldfish? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted July 31, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: has indicated that a Hydra was NPCCS, yet it seems to have been an open well-wagon? It was passenger rated Ian and had vacuum brakes. Painted brown. With BR they were redesignated as the Lowmac. https://didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/article.php/224/no-42193-hydra-d-well-wagon 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, gwrrob said: It never crossed my mind when I posted these photos this morning that the leading wagon was weathered by Mick @Mick Bonwick and I've just heard he's passed away. Words escape me at the moment. This is one of those WTF moments.... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think the G22 was the only well wagon diagram to be classed as NPCCS. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 1, 2021 9 hours ago, gwrrob said: It never crossed my mind when I posted these photos this morning that the leading wagon was weathered by Mick @Mick Bonwick and I've just heard he's passed away. Words escape me at the moment. That's shocking news Rob. Thanks for letting us know, though. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 hours ago, St Enodoc said: That's shocking news Rob. Thanks for letting us know, though. I was sorry to hear that Mick has passed away and send my condolences to his family and friends. Although I never met him , I followed his teachings and learned a lot from him . An inspiration . Ken 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted August 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 More '50s freight action as 16xx pannier class 1608 continues west. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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