RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2021 5, 6, 7, 8 & 10 please. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2021 Bags of choice for anyone looking for non-gangwayed coaches hanging on in services which have not gone over to DMUs or which might end up as strengtheners. So a good selection for me this time and I'll not need to really march into B Set land. 3, 9, 10, and 11 for me 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2021 No , 7 is the E145 version of the B set. 5 is the E147. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 8, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2021 Hattons are after our money. ANTB is being stalked from Merseyside. Email received just solely offering various models in GW green and other stock. Look closer and you notice much of it listed as out of stock or in stages of antiquity or disrepair 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Gough Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Brian My votes are for 2, 3, 8 and 9. As you haven't specified any particular diagrams of clerestory, under 2, I would suggest the following three: C10 - 46' 6" All Third - 1894-1958. 323 constructed (if I've added the lots correctly!) - 109 survived Nationalisation. The same type as the restored Didcot clerestory. D24 - 50' Van Third - 1897-1950. 85 constructed - 28 survived Nationalisation. E55 - 54' 6" Lavatory Composite - 1887 - 1948 10 constructed - 1 survived Nationalisation (just!) No Lav composites were constructed after the clerestory era, but the designation continued to feature in many train formations, in the London Div local coach books, at least up to WW2. I appreciate the differing lengths might not appeal to manufacturers. I have not voted for number 1 - 4-wheelers, even though these were still in use on the Wallingford branch up to to the early 1930s (Van Third - Composite - Van Third), since Ratio have this covered for my needs. Similarly, number 4 - 'Main Line & City'. These are classed as 'Local C Trains' in the pre-war London coach books, in which they have 8 working diagrams on weekdays. However, working from the capital, these shew the normal destinations as Uxbridge and Windsor, with no workings further west. I have also not voted for any 'B' sets since there were no workings for any of these in the London Division. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted September 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 04/09/2021 at 17:50, Neal Ball said: Let's not talk down the prospect of catering vehicles for the GWR - if they were potentially going to be such poor sellers, we wouldn't have Hornby tooling up SR carriages at the moment. We live in hope that Hornby and/or Bachmann continue to tool up new GWR carriages, to include restaurant and maybe even some 1930's buffet cars. Thanks! Thanks for another poll, Brian and the team. 1,2 & 3 for me please with the possibility of 4. I think I'm likely to be in a small minority, here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 Morning all. My friend that knows very little about GWR coaches would like to vote for whichever 2-coach B Set diagrams would have realistically run between Bodmin and Wadebridge. 1 1 1 2 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: Morning all. My friend that knows very little about GWR coaches would like to vote for whichever 2-coach B Set diagrams would have realistically run between Bodmin and Wadebridge. Here's a clue: 6 Collett B-set 61ft Bow Ended Diag.E140 Built between 1930 and 1931. Examples lasted until 1962. Forty-one sets with 7ft bogies. Recessed door handles. Have been allocated to: Bodmin, Bridport, Bristol, Cardiff, Helston, Kingham, Kingsbridge, Leamington, Stratford, Worcester, Taunton, St Ives, Wellington & Crewe. The old Airfix (now Hornby) models represent this type. 2 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: Morning all. My friend that knows very little about GWR coaches would like to vote for whichever 2-coach B Set diagrams would have realistically run between Bodmin and Wadebridge. Has you friend arranged Therapy? Dr.Robert. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Here's a clue: 6 Collett B-set 61ft Bow Ended Diag.E140 Built between 1930 and 1931. Examples lasted until 1962. Forty-one sets with 7ft bogies. Recessed door handles. Have been allocated to: Bodmin, Bridport, Bristol, Cardiff, Helston, Kingham, Kingsbridge, Leamington, Stratford, Worcester, Taunton, St Ives, Wellington & Crewe. The old Airfix (now Hornby) models represent this type. Maybe his 'friend' thought Bodmin was only on the GWR and sort of overlooked the fact that the GWR provided a service between the Cornish mainline and Wadebridge/Padstow? 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Maybe his 'friend' thought Bodmin was only on the GWR and sort of overlooked the fact that the GWR provided a service between the Cornish mainline and Wadebridge/Padstow? I have already mentioned to my friend that photos of various 2-coach ex-GWR coaches on the Bodmin General to Wadebridge service exist. They don't all seem to be the same, hence my question as we weren't sure if just one of the descriptions mentioning Bodmin was complete. I can however fully understand the need for you GWR types to have a updated version of the old Airfix B-set coaches. Long overdue. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Has you friend arranged Therapy? Dr.Robert. Definitely required. Polythene Pam 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: I have already mentioned to my friend that photos of various 2-coach ex-GWR coaches on the Bodmin General to Wadebridge service exist. They don't all seem to be the same, hence my question as we weren't sure if just one of the descriptions mentioning Bodmin was complete. I can however fully understand the need for you GWR types to have a updated version of the old Airfix B-set coaches. Long overdue. Hello I have just found a photo of a 45xx about to depart Wadebridge for Bodmin General. The coach visible next the loco is W6881W - which is a Diag.E147. Brian 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, BMacdermott said: Hello I have just found a photo of a 45xx about to depart Wadebridge for Bodmin General. The coach visible next the loco is W6881W - which is a Diag.E147. Brian Hi Brian, my friend suspected it was more than just the E140s. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 What sort is this then?... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 Looks like E140 but I've seen photos of all three diagrams in use on the line. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 So based on discussion Brian, and on behalf of my friend and other West of England modellers, it would be a vote for 5 and 6. But if 7 is a 5 with different bogies, then it sounds like a no brainer to do that diagram too. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 Hello everyone A subtle clarification... We said in the intro that sets 'Have been allocated to...' Different to 'Have been seen at...' Brian 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, 2ManySpams said: Hi Brian, my friend suspected it was more than just the E140s. Your friend seems altogether too knowledgeable for his (or her) own good! 4 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: My friend I / We want to know who it is please because I don't believe you ! Freddy & The Dreamers 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 Hello everyone Link below might be useful? Brian http://www.gwr.org.uk/b-set-notes.html 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: I have already mentioned to my friend that photos of various 2-coach ex-GWR coaches on the Bodmin General to Wadebridge service exist. They don't all seem to be the same, hence my question as we weren't sure if just one of the descriptions mentioning Bodmin was complete. I can however fully understand the need for you GWR types to have a updated version of the old Airfix B-set coaches. Long overdue. Has your friend taken a look at this thread as apparently Bodmin had more than one station. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2021 I don't have any friends, so I am sorry I can not vote this time. Thank you for your sympathy and understanding, however I do not find Panniers offensive. Anne Isolate. 1 1 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post gwrrob Posted September 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Mallard60022 said: however I do not find Panniers offensive. Nor Granges as we'll see a few more of 6822 Manton Grange anon. 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMS Posted September 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2021 Survey time I vote for 2 - C10, D24. E55 and E147 Just been looking at aerieal photos of Cardiff Gen in 20s - not surprisingly clerestorys predominate. As usual many thanks 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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