A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[bgman]

Anyone with that taste needs to be stripped naked and slapped on the backside with a wet kipper.

 

First you must choose your weapon fish very carefully !

 

 

F.Monger

[81C]

Taken up fishing have you Rob ?.

[bgman]

Taken up fishing have you Rob ?.

 

 

Apparently so, only trouble is he seems to end up with a Walrus when he goes out ! 

 

 

J.R.Hardly-Abite

[gwrrob]

Apparently so, only trouble is he seems to end up with a Walrus when he goes out ! 

 

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J.R.Hardly-Abite

 

One of these might be more useful.

 

 

Edited January 17, 2019 by gwrrob

[bgman]

One of these might be more useful.

 

 

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Bit OTT mate but I guess its useful ? 

 

 

Yours

 

B.Lubber

[Clive Mortimore]

Bit OTT mate but I guess its useful ? 

 

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Yours

 

B.Lubber

Wicked man

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That poor crane having to lift that heavy load.

[ian]

Now then, you GWR types.  I rather fancy buying a BR(W) Castle.  Ideally, a double chimney with Hawksworth tender because I have weird taste...

 

 

Anyone with that taste needs to be stripped naked and slapped on the backside with a wet kipper.

No, he'd enjoy it far too much.

[toboldlygo]

Anyone with that taste needs to be stripped naked and slapped on the backside with a wet kipper.

 

Too quick, being thrown naked into the Lego Pit  - falling or treading on those tiny blocks in the dark is a far more effective treatment 

[checkrail]

Anyone with that taste needs to be stripped naked and slapped on the backside with a wet kipper.

And this from a man who wants a GWR locomotive in black?!

[Siberian Snooper]

First you must choose your weapon fish very carefully !

 

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F.Monger

 

 

I see no ships, kippers!

[Dr Gerbil-Fritters]

Go on then, beat me with a haddock if you dare

 

 

twould be even better with a double chimney... and a better shade of green

[toboldlygo]

Go on then, beat me with a haddock if you dare

 

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twould be even better with a double chimney... and a better shade of green

 

Fresh or smoked?   

[The Fatadder]

One of these might be more useful.

 

 

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Stop tempting me.....

I really want one, but the question is do I want it more than a rake of Comet kits or two locos (not to mention the cost of the tool vans etc to go with it.

 

Going to have a look through the redundant modern stock and see if I have a couple of items that will cover it.....

[gwrrob]

Does anyone make the tool vans that go with it ? Could be a nice project for TMC.

[The Fatadder]

Does anyone make the tool vans that go with it ? Could be a nice project for TMC.

Current production I think no, I think it was in the Mallard range and possibly Falcon Brassworks as well?

 

Though I guess each crane probably had different coaches

Edited January 17, 2019 by The Fatadder

[toboldlygo]

P4 rolling road is ready..

 

[M.I.B]

Going to have a look through the redundant modern stock and see if I have a couple of items that will cover it.....

 

I did that exercise as soon as it was announced,and I feel all the better for it.

 

You will too............

[M.I.B]

Does anyone make the tool vans that go with it ? Could be a nice project for TMC.

 

The "support vehicles" seem to differ for each crane and each time frame.

 

Some people have painstakingly re-created the support coaches for cranes in our period, but they seem to be scratch built.  The originals were certainly "one-offs" or "two-offs" at best.

 

I don't currently have the time to scratch build the right Mess van etc, so have already re-painted a Triang clerestory in grey, as have others, for the sole purpose of adding to the crane.

 

It all depends how much you want to lie awake at night worrying about accuracy..........

[M.I.B]

I have had an idea for some time that breakdown consists were very much a product of the boss at the time.  Vans, and possibly a coal 5 plank on some but not on others.  Some in GWR days had the purpose built Mess Vans, and tool vans, and some were I guess often just re-purposed GS vans and an old clerestory. 

 

There is an excellent post war film of OOC and it includes a very brief shot of the breakdown train being marshaled.  I would have thought that it was always "ready" but obviously not.  A few sources say that the crane was always in steam 24/7 so as to be "ready" but there were obviously maintenance periods and washouts etc, just like an engine.  The OOC consist in the late 40s included an "Open C" for presumably coal for the crane and packing timbers.  I have not seen that with the other GW crane photos.

 

In summary - you can probably get away with all sorts in a crane consist.

[Northroader]

In a lot of cases, if you had a crane call out, you needed to work out when you arrived at the breakdown site, whether you needed the jib leading or trailing, so in the case of the OOC crane marshalling, it might involve a trip round the Greenford loop. Riding vehicles were usually old hand me down coaches converted, and they could suffer. The worse I’ve seen involved a runaway with tank cars loaded with 3500’ oil, runny when it’s hot, which this was, but having leaked out through fractured pipes, it cooled to the consistency of tar. It happened to be snowing as well, which hid the leakage. By the time that had been sorted out, the gang needed oilskins replacing and a new riding van.

[M.I.B]

I fully understand the part about Greenford triangle to turn these beasts, but I would have thought that the jobs based out of OOC would need it always to be facing "jib West". 

 

I am ready to be corrected/educated/etc

[St Enodoc]

A few sources say that the crane was always in steam 24/7 so as to be "ready" but there were obviously maintenance periods and washouts etc, just like an engine.

Cranes were indeed kept in light steam all the time. If they were out of service for any reason such as maintenance then Control would arrange cover by neighbouring cranes.

[St Enodoc]

I fully understand the part about Greenford triangle to turn these beasts, but I would have thought that the jobs based out of OOC would need it always to be facing "jib West". 

 

I am ready to be corrected/educated/etc

If the derailed vehicle(s) were at the western end of a train then the crane might well need to be "jib East". Yes, the jib could be slewed through 360 degrees but one end was always easier to work with than the other.

[Northroader]

I fully understand the part about Greenford triangle to turn these beasts, but I would have thought that the jobs based out of OOC would need it always to be facing "jib West". 

 

I am ready to be corrected/educated/etc

More often than not, the derailment involved something off on points in a yard leading to deadend sidings. Thankfully, incidents out on the running lines were much rarer. Then if you’re looking at Acton Yard or Southall sidings, for instance, it’s which way the sidings are facing. Also, you need the match truck behind you out of the way of the lift. Then you raise the crane, turn the jib round, and you’re close to your lift.

[St Enodoc]

More often than not, the derailment involved something off on points in a yard leading to deadend sidings. Thankfully, incidents out on the running lines were much rarer. Then if you’re looking at Acton Yard or Southall sidings, for instance, it’s which way the sidings are facing. Also, you need the match truck behind you out of the way of the lift. Then you raise the crane, turn the jib round, and you’re close to your lift.

In my experience it was quite common to lift the match truck out of the way to improve the lift. The challenge with slewing the jib to face the other way was often the rear overhang.