bridgiesimon Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not a lot more to add, I am developing my 2001-2000 and something stock for a future layout and am wandering whether to expand my short rake of Farish HEA wagons in EWS livery to a full rake or to shift them on. Any help in confirming when they were replaced, especially in the South Wales/Bristol area would be greatly appreciated. best wishes and hopeful Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 HEAs were still in use on domestic coal to the Smallshaws depots at Shrewsbury and Gobowen until about 2005. ISTR some of this traffic was occasionally loaded at Avonmouth although most came from Scotland. They were also used on a flow from Onllwyn to Doncaster which finished at around the same time. Both flows usually ran via the wagonload networks in rakes of 10 or so at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 There was also a flow of coke from Redcar to Scunthorpe by block train for quite a while, especially after the blast-furnaces at Redcar were mothballed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Ideal so in the era I model I can get away with running a rake then, most appreciated both of you!! I have now just bought another 15 listed on a certain site! Best wishes SImon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2013 Simon, Here's one of the Redcar - Scunny trains in 2008 with a healthy rake behind 66002 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I count 50 on there. That's a few bobs worth of wagons to replicate that! Cav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Simon. Be very careful with your rake. I believe there was only ONE with large EWS lettering? Not that many with small EWS lettering. Even at the end RF Red/Grey. PAle grey transrail, blue Mainline, black yellow coal sector and all over grime (who knows what livery) etc etc were more common. They never got the repaint programme that the still used MEAs got. Cheers Si 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'd say a fair percentage got the small EWS scheme, but the big EWS scheme I'll agree seems to have been a one-off (hasn't stopped Hornby from selling multiples though!) - i'd say that EWS (small logo) maroon followed by the many variants of old Railfreight red/pink/grey are probably most common, with an 'occasional' one in Mainline blue or Transrail grey... The MEAs in maroon dominate as most of the fleet was new in that livery - plus many of the early rebodies (which included the other liveries) were converted to MFA before yet more 'new' MEA were built in EWS paint! - There's very few repaints out there on ones that were previously blue, black or grey/yellow. Anyhow - a couple more pics of the Redcar trains to give you a flavour - the majority of the wagon shots here: http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/H/HEA-coalcoke-hoppers were taken from one of the two following trains.... 66081 at York, April 2007: 60076 in Oct 2007 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Out of interest when did the HEAs lose their ladders? I assume to stop youngsters climbing in them. Cav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 As far as I recall the last Shipment coal for West Blyth would be mid 1980's as both Tyne Dock and Bates were built for MGR discharge, probably the same for Garston. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40044 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Out of interest when did the HEAs lose their ladders? I assume to stop youngsters climbing in them. Cav From early 2002, following the death of a fitter who climbed up a TUA while it was under live OHLE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Just read back, interesting comment about the ladders, so for my era, I need to remove all the ladders then as I am modelling beyond 2001 - possibly around 2008 ish. Thanks for that, excellent info. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Flynn Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Hi good video ,how time fly,s Hugh Simon, Here's one of the Redcar - Scunny trains in 2008 with a healthy rake behind 66002 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 I have been looking into the info in more depth, I am modelling in N gauge and the Graham Farish EWS livery seems to have a smaller sized print 'EWS' - http://www.petersspares.com/images/_lib/373505d-graham-farish-46-tonne-glw-hea-hopper-wagon-ews-9014643-0-1350999354000.jpg so am thinking that I should be ok for those, I have 21 now so aim to develop a selection of different liveried wagons to expand the rake to a final length of around 36. I know, chickening out of going for the full 50 but my layout would never hold that many anyway (not that I have started it yet!!). Best wishes guys Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2013 I have been looking into the info in more depth, I am modelling in N gauge and the Graham Farish EWS livery seems to have a smaller sized print 'EWS' - http://www.petersspares.com/images/_lib/373505d-graham-farish-46-tonne-glw-hea-hopper-wagon-ews-9014643-0-1350999354000.jpg so am thinking that I should be ok for those, I have 21 now so aim to develop a selection of different liveried wagons to expand the rake to a final length of around 36. I know, chickening out of going for the full 50 but my layout would never hold that many anyway (not that I have started it yet!!). Best wishes guys Simon Hi Simon, Out of the 50 in my video, 32 of them are small EWS so for your rake about 23-25 would equate to that proportion and make the rest mixed. I will have photographed most, if not all, of the wagons too if you need photos. hth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 most appreciated i will keep that in mind, esp for when i start the weathering of them all. best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Would HEAs, MEAs & HAAs ever run together ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Possibly en route to wagon shops for exams or repairs Edited March 21, 2016 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Would HEAs, MEAs & HAAs ever run together ? You could see all three types together at Coedbach washery, near Kidwelly, and also FPA and PFA coal containers. The HAAs worked a weekly block train to Immingham, whilst the others worked domestic coal trains to Scotland and the London area, as well as shipping coal to Swansea docks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWS FAN Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 16/04/2013 at 14:35, Glorious NSE said: I'd say a fair percentage got the small EWS scheme, but the big EWS scheme I'll agree seems to have been a one-off (hasn't stopped Hornby from selling multiples though!) - i'd say that EWS (small logo) maroon followed by the many variants of old Railfreight red/pink/grey are probably most common, with an 'occasional' one in Mainline blue or Transrail grey... The MEAs in maroon dominate as most of the fleet was new in that livery - plus many of the early rebodies (which included the other liveries) were converted to MFA before yet more 'new' MEA were built in EWS paint! - There's very few repaints out there on ones that were previously blue, black or grey/yellow. Anyhow - a couple more pics of the Redcar trains to give you a flavour - the majority of the wagon shots here: http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/H/HEA-coalcoke-hoppers were taken from one of the two following trains.... 66081 at York, April 2007: 60076 in Oct 2007 Great photos. It would be good to see more photos of the Wagons if you have any ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Sorry, not been on the site for a bit - all the usable HEA images I have are online if you follow the link quoted above. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold brynna79 Posted October 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/05/2020 at 00:01, Glorious NSE said: Sorry, not been on the site for a bit - all the usable HEA images I have are online if you follow the link quoted above. Great selection of Pictures Martyn. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sludger Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 On 16/04/2013 at 16:37, Mark Saunders said: As far as I recall the last Shipment coal for West Blyth would be mid 1980's as both Tyne Dock and Bates were built for MGR discharge, probably the same for Garston. Mark Saunders Fancy missing a topic like this until now. We were using HAAs in the Blyth Area from 1983. Trev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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