Jim’s “out and about with GBRf” thread

[lmsforever]

Like the last photo the grass growing in the four foot would look good on a layout.

[newbryford]

Just seen 60095 rumble through Blackburn about 90 minutes ago on the logs.

It's on my "to model" list as it's the only 60 I've travelled behind (I've already modelled the one I've driven!)

 

Cheers,

Mick

[big jim]

some from last night, bescot to sutton bridge then onto the Cambrian as far as Carno level crossing, 66850 and 66849 top and tail 10 auto hoppers

 

bescot

 

 

 

 

 

then over to sutton bridge to wait for the possession to be granted

 

 

 

once granted, over to newtown at a reduced speed and into the worksite, a chance for a couple of pics with the ES put the marker boards back

 

 

 

 

then onward to Carno where we had to wait for the track laying guys to finish before dropping ballast, i had got relief by then so headed home in a van

 

 

 

and that was that, nice to go down the cambrian again, luckily i had spent a few days down there back in december refreshing it so was more than happy with it, the only thing i i dont yet do ERTMS but as the line was under complete possession that wasnt an issue, however there are no "signals" or speed boards as such but being as i was in a complete T3 possession i was travelling at a reduced speed anyway and i know where certain bridges are that i need to travel at futher reduced speeds over are, similarly i had to check that all crossings were operating normally before crossing them (apart from the ones in the worksite which were under local control), an interesting and enjoyable night

[ess1uk]

interested how you work a non ERTMS loco on the cambrian?

is it only allowed because of the T3?

[Gary H]

interested how you work a non ERTMS loco on the cambrian?

is it only allowed because of the T3?

Indeed. Any loco with relevant RA can  run West of Sutton Bridge Jn as long as the ERTMS lines over which the movement is required to operate are under T3 possession. All other movements with ERTMS operational are restricted to NR Class 97 or ATW 158 units. 

[Fat Controller]

 

Indeed. Any loco with relevant RA can  run West of Sutton Bridge Jn as long as the ERTMS lines over which the movement is required to operate are under T3 possession. All other movements with ERTMS operational are restricted to NR Class 97 or ATW 158 units. 

 

The same situation applies to CTRL/HS1. Non-TVM fitted stock may use it,but only under possession; as the only circumstances where they would be expected to do so would be in connection with works, this isn't a problem.

[big jim]

 

Indeed. Any loco with relevant RA can  run West of Sutton Bridge Jn as long as the ERTMS lines over which the movement is required to operate are under T3 possession. All other movements with ERTMS operational are restricted to NR Class 97 or ATW 158 units. 

 

 

and a couple of WCR 37s too now, anything over RA can work down there but they have a few extra bridges to slow down over, when i used to go down there with DRS on the water cannon if we had "barclay" 20s on it we would have to slow down in certain locations as they were a higher RA than brush ones due to the extra fuel tank in the nose end (im sure ive got that the right way round re brush/barclay)

Edited January 24, 2016 by big jim

[Guest B Exam]

and a couple of WCR 37s too now, anything over RA can work down there but they have a few extra bridges to slow down over, when i used to go down there with DRS on the water cannon if we had "barclay" 20s on it we would have to slow down in certain locations as they were a higher RA than brush ones due to the extra fuel tank in the nose end (im sure ive got that the right way round re brush/barclay)

Brush and RFS 20/3s. Brush 20301-305 RA6 and 60mph, RFS 20306-315 RA5 and 75mph.

Edited January 24, 2016 by B Exam

[big jim]

thats the ones, first year i signed the cambrian we used 20301 and 305 on the RHTT more than anything else, the year after it was 37s

[big jim]

and some from today, the day started in rugeley power station picking up a 66 then down to bescot where it joined a class mate for a trip up to tyne yard via doncaster

 

bescot, 66849 and 66848

 

treeton jn

 

rotherham masborough

 

doncaster

 

the train was then cancelled as the job they were booked for was cancelled too so we left them in doncaster marshgate

 

got the train home, i normally have a bit of time to get some pics at donny but there was a train home in the platform so i got that

 

changed trains at stockport, a few things to see

 

175

 

175 and pendolino

 

pendolino

 

GBRf 66 on a biomass train

 

very impressive looking train, the one thing that struck me was how quiet the wagons are when on the move, barely any track noise at all

 

then low and behold as that one left another arrived

 

hauled by one of the LUL liveried 66s, 66718

 

 

 

and that was that, job cancelled tomorrow so am now going to doncaster again to bring the 66s back to bescot as they are no longer required in the north east, the good thing is im using 47739 to drag them, then off to washwood heath with the 47!

Edited January 25, 2016 by big jim

[Guest B Exam]

Noticed today that Colas have wealded the paintbrush at 37116 and painted it in corporate colours. Bye bye the BR Blue it was wearing.

 

Apparently 37057 to be painted in a fortnights time into corporate colours.

 

I Must get out for 3Q18 to Thoresby Coll Jn in the morning as it should be 37057 top n tail 37116....

[surfsup]

Noticed today that Colas have wealded the paintbrush at 37116 and painted it in corporate colours. Bye bye the BR Blue it was wearing.

 

Apparently 37057 to be painted in a fortnights time into corporate colours.

 

I Must get out for 3Q18 to Thoresby Coll Jn in the morning as it should be 37057 top n tail 37116....

Indeed it has, shame it didn't last long in Blue - Wasn't it only just repainted into BR Blue within the last year? Will be a shame if 057 does go into Colas colours though, it's nice to see a loco every now and again not on corporate colours, especially one done to such a high standard of restoration.

 

Anyway, here is a picture from the world of Flickr of 116.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42802953@N03/24502165422/in/photolist-Dkb18Y-CxeKrU-CxmuTR-CW9D2g-Cyr69Y-Cyr6bG-C7swHB-BGjhot-BT3UNf-ChSJzb-BmypB9-C9tM4u-BYEgeN-AeSVxV-AeDddh-AeDcQU-AxGWfx-ARyf6w-AcLGdC-ANHqhc-AaKaer-zRFAPY-AaJYGK-AaJRMH-ANaMj2-ALN594-ALN59V-ALN58n-A7N6WX-AKKG1R-AHs75G-A7kifT-AHRQem-AK3MXx-AFaRFq-zLzwrF-zLrdNS-AqRy5Y-AJyvTa-zLhVMy-AqHb4j-zLqtPe-AHcPmt-zL9YEy-zKXLuJ-ACotQU-ACop4Q-ACobgq-zHDBAE-Ao54eU

[class"66"]

Was hoping to see 37116 in BR blue

[Gary H]

I gota be honest, I think its abit of a shame that these big company's don't acknowledge the railways heritage and keep one or two examples in 'old colours' of some such from a bygone era.

Even the huge freight  hauliers in America like Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern  do it and have some stunning examples of repatriated liveries of past and long gone rail company's.

So much more interesting!

Saw 057 in Plymouth just a few days ago, what a great looking loco it is.

Edited January 26, 2016 by Gary H

[alibuchan]

If I remember correctly, when EWS started to get complaints from customers that they were sub-contracting out the work to other companies, namely Loadhaul, Mainline and Transrail. The customers wanted consistency, it was around this time that some massive yellow beasties stickers were ordered and applied.

 

This might not be the issue here but there will be some corporate thinking behind it. Plus I quite like the 37'sin colas livery

 

Alistair

[newbryford]

I gota be honest, I think its abit of a shame that these big company's don't acknowledge the railways heritage and keep one or two examples in 'old colours' of some such from a bygone era.

Even the huge freight  hauliers in America like Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern  do it and have some stunning examples of repatriated liveries of past and long gone rail company's.

So much more interesting!

Saw 057 in Plymouth just a few days ago, what a great looking loco it is.

 

Agreed - 37057 is a credit to all the put her into the current state

 

If I remember correctly, when EWS started to get complaints from customers that they were sub-contracting out the work to other companies, namely Loadhaul, Mainline and Transrail. The customers wanted consistency, it was around this time that some massive yellow beasties stickers were ordered and applied.

 

This might not be the issue here but there will be some corporate thinking behind it. Plus I quite like the 37'sin colas livery

 

Alistair

 

And unusually, DRS - well known for keeping everything in a corporate image - albeit a few varieties of it - is in the process of applying BR large logo blue to 37402 & 37403, as well as retaining 37401 in LL blue. (Having said that, the likely customers for these 37/4s are the general public and they aren't usually interested in what colour it is, as long as it's on time, comfy and clean!)

 

Cheers,

Mick

(who has a 37057 in the paintshop..............)

[Gary H]

 

(who has a 37057 in the paintshop..............)

Will have to see that one when its done!! 

[big jim]

some from yesterday, back to doncaster to collect the 66s i took up there the day before, job cancelled so required back at bescot for the weekend!

 

started in crewe, pass to donny via stockport

 

 

up to doncaster marshgate, the whole point of the exercise was to get some handling in on a 47 for my trainee but we also got roped into moving the 66s too

 

47739 leading 66848 and 849

 

few things passing by, pics a bit wonky as they were out of the cab door while we waited to depart

 

 

 

 

freightliner 66 on the avoiding line

 

derby, waiting time

 

that was it til bescot where we dropped off the 66s and headed to washwood heath with the 47

 

 

 

supposed to be going to boston today with the 47 to get some practical handling in on the 47 but instead ive got to go to bescot then over to shrewsbury to rescue a train from coton hill yard

Edited January 27, 2016 by big jim

[eldavo]

Nice pics as usual Jim. Robin is looking a bit grubby! Needs the attention of your bucket and broom.

 

Cheers

Dave

[DRS Crewe On A Mission]

Just as an observation Freightliner 66560 pictured above has received the new style Powerhaul writing on the front of the cab alike what the ex DRS now Freightliner 66/4s have. These been 66414, 416, 418 and 420. To my knowledge this is the first Freightliner 66/5 that hasn't received a repaint into Powerhaul livery but has the new style writing applied.

[Iron Horse]

I got a photo of one at Crewe Basford Hall Junction the weekend before last but can't remember the number off the top of my head.........not a lot of use this post really is it.......coat....hat....gone......

[big jim]

and today....

 

over to bescot to collect a 66

 

 

which we took to shrewsbury coton hill yard to pick up a 97 and autohoppers that had been left there

 

 

 

and back to bescot

 

 

 

then parked up

 

 

 

finally get a trip to boston tomorrow!

[big jim]

Just as an observation Freightliner 66560 pictured above has received the new style Powerhaul writing on the front of the cab alike what the ex DRS now Freightliner 66/4s have. These been 66414, 416, 418 and 420. To my knowledge this is the first Freightliner 66/5 that hasn't received a repaint into Powerhaul livery but has the new style writing applied.

 

you really need to get out more!

[pitbull1845]

Hi Jim,

You've taken some really nice pictures as usual, I'm particularly interested in the shots of Bescot yard  as I can use them for a bit of inspiration for my layout. Now at the risk of embarrassing myself can I ask you a question on signalling in the yard. I note that in the pictures there are no visible signals, so I was wondering is there one signal at the exit of the span of sidings and shunting movements/permissions are authorised by the shunter up to that point?  I'm just trying to work out if I can get away with just having two way radios,  stop boards (I can see the back of a sign in one of the pictures) or similar or will have to use GPS or standard aspect signals.??  

 

Sorry for the questions...   

[big jim]

Hi Jim,

You've taken some really nice pictures as usual, I'm particularly interested in the shots of Bescot yard  as I can use them for a bit of inspiration for my layout. Now at the risk of embarrassing myself can I ask you a question on signalling in the yard. I note that in the pictures there are no visible signals, so I was wondering is there one signal at the exit of the span of sidings and shunting movements/permissions are authorised by the shunter up to that point?  I'm just trying to work out if I can get away with just having two way radios,  stop boards (I can see the back of a sign in one of the pictures) or similar or will have to use GPS or standard aspect signals.??  

 

Sorry for the questions...   

 

movements within the yard are controlled by the person in charge, he authorises movements towards the exit signals at various points aorund the different areas of the yard, he controls stop boards on certain roads too too, you have to get his permission to move past them towards the exit signals on those roads, lots of possibilities of conflicting moves to be had!