daniel8910 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Was just wondering if anyone has ever seen a station layout like the one I have attached; if so could one please mention which station/ year please? thanks in advance ( P.S the question is more directed at the platform section of the layout, the goods yard is merely there to fill space on the plan) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2013 Albeit with some of the connection in a different place the answer is 'yes' - the middle line basically being a siding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Was just wondering if anyone has ever seen a station layout like the one I have attached; if so could one please mention which station/ year please? thanks in advance ( P.S the question is more directed at the platform section of the layout, the goods yard is merely there to fill space on the plan) Maidstone East Station in Kent, on the Victoria to Ashford Line, has a centre track arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 If the lines heading "east" and "west" become single "off-stage", it resembles Tavistock South quite closely in the "passenger" track and platform arrangements with a long and a shorter platform and the bay siding vaguely resembles the cattle pen/loading dock as well. The goods arrangements are completely different being at the "back" rather than the "front", but then you said they are just there to fill space at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thanks for the quick replies The middle line would act as a through line when both platforms are in use; I like the sound if Tavistock south, and I will research it . The station is going to be a through station, with an overbridge acting as the scenic break, on the right hand side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Crieff station in Perthshire had a similar arrangement of tracks through the station reverting to single track on either side Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Maidstone East Station in Kent, on the Victoria to Ashford Line, has a centre track arrangement. Attached shows an earlier arrangement that existed at Maidstone East. The middle track was used to allow trains through in both directions when the platforms were occupied. It also provides a run-round facility for both platforms.There was a trailing crossover between the up and down lines just beyond the river bridge to the west (towards London) for movements out of the bay platform, and a short tunnel immediately to the east end of the platforms. The plan does not show the goods sidings that used to exist on both sides of the station, the goods yard proper being on the down side (top of the plan), but it does show the full train length bay platform on the down side. The track has now been further simplified so that the middle track only provides a passing loop to the down platform, with I believe no connection to the up line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Maidstone West also has a middle road like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted April 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2013 Add Sheffield Victoria to the list - note the traps on the middle road indicating its use as a siding. The middle line would act as a through line when both platforms are in use; It can't do that as you've drawn it, since it's connected to the up line at one end and the down line at the other, like a very long trailing crossover . If you want a through road, it needs to be connected to the same running line at both ends. Wasn't this discussed recently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies- Both Crieff and Maidstone appear to be interesting places to model, although I would have to discard the bay platform on the to of the Maidstone plan. Does anyone know how big the Maidstone goods Facilities were in the 50s/60s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calimero Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Ipswich has a middle road too, an interesting place to model if you can find the room! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies- Both Crieff and Maidstone appear to be interesting places to model, although I would have to discard the bay platform on the to of the Maidstone plan. Does anyone know how big the Maidstone goods Facilities were in the 50s/60s? Attached is Maidstone East Station circa 1910. Note the small loco shed and turntable on the up side, also the wagon turntables in the goods yard. The loco shed and turntable disappeared but I don't think the goods yard had changed much by 1950. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 thats a good map, cheers I have decided today to model a hybrid of maidstone east and west staions- the station and platforms of Maidstone west, but i am including the goods yard of Maidstone East shown towards the bottom of the picture in post 12. Thanks everyone for their great input! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 Attached is Maidstone East Station circa 1910. Note the small loco shed and turntable on the up side, also the wagon turntables in the goods yard. The loco shed and turntable disappeared but I don't think the goods yard had changed much by 1950. Out of interest, where does one find these maps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted April 26, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 26, 2013 Bedford St Johns (Bletchley to Cambridge) had a similar sort of arrangement. See http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bedford_st_johns/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Out of interest, where does one find these maps? One good source of maps like the ones in previous posts is http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html. For most locations in the U.K. there is usually a selection of 1:2,500 scale OS maps covering the years approx 1880 to 1970. This scale of map shows the general track layout fairly clearly but some of "railway" detail may not be entirely correct e.g. pointwork types such as double/single slips and complex crossovers, as this not the primary purpose of the maps. If Maidstone interests you particularly there are 5 maps available to view, study and capture. Enter Maidstone in the "Search" box and the available maps and their scales will appear on the right side of the screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted April 27, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2013 Signalling diagram for Maidstone West here - looks like a good basis for a model. Note that the centre road is a genuine through line for up trains with the platform served by a loop. Maidstone East here. In this case the centre road is a siding connected to the down line at both ends. Just goes to show how many permutations existed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 One good source of maps like the ones in previous posts is http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html. For most locations in the U.K. there is usually a selection of 1:2,500 scale OS maps covering the years approx 1880 to 1970. This scale of map shows the general track layout fairly clearly but some of "railway" detail may not be entirely correct e.g. pointwork types such as double/single slips and complex crossovers, as this not the primary purpose of the maps. If Maidstone interests you particularly there are 5 maps available to view, study and capture. Enter Maidstone in the "Search" box and the available maps and their scales will appear on the right side of the screen. Also the SRS web page has a huge collection of archive track diagrams, well worth a visit! http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 That srs website is a great visit, strongly recommend it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpnewbold Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Ipswich has a middle road too, an interesting place to model if you can find the room! A bit like this? Depot is roughly based on Leeds Midland Road, the station on Ipswich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel8910 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 I have laid the station track, and ballasted- will create a 'layout' topic soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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