RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2014 The arrival of these has taken me by surprise, but perhaps there are advantages to ordering from a local retailer who sometimes doesn't get his order in the first tranche... time to save up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 My two where here when i came home from work. L M S and BR early crest. Gave them a quick run on the layout tonight. Both superb looking little locomotives super smooth runners even over my insulfrogs no stuttering or jerky moves.Very happy with them another winner from Bachmann well recommended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted September 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2014 My BR late crest one arrived this morning. Body removed, easy fitting for 6 pin decoder, light lubrication and as mentioned above a very smooth runner. Now I just need to find a driver and fireman from my "where are they" supply. Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2014 The arrival of these has taken me by surprise, but perhaps there are advantages to ordering from a local retailer who sometimes doesn't get his order in the first tranche... time to save up? Bought mine at Ian Allan in Birmingham, my usual source except for a few locos they don't order in. . Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Quick one Am i right with saying this is a right hand driven loco?. Will be fitting Bachmann driver & fireman in the cabs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 Quick one Am i right with saying this is a right hand driven loco?. Will be fitting Bachmann driver & fireman in the cabs Bachmann haven't provided a driver & Fireman for years - and IIFC none of their "Blue Ribbon" release have ever had them, only the split chassis designs dating back at least a decade. If you require a set of crew there are plenty of options out there at a range of prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) My Grandad used to have a bit of an involvement with these locos back in the 1920s/1930s. He worked at Warsop Main colliery and they used to hire a loco from the LMS for shunting the colliery sidings. There were two regular locos, both Midland 1Fs from Mansfield shed, that worked for a week and then were swapped on a Sunday. He did tell me the two numbers once upon a time but that was 30 plus years ago and I can't recall them now. What was interesting is that they were both half cab locos and the people driving them at the colliery didn't like them, so the workshops at the colliery made up a rear half cab, that would be put on a loco when it arrived and be swapped to the other one at the weekend. I often wonder if any photos exist of these two half cabs, running with their unofficial full cab conversion. The model looks like a cracker and I may just have to have one for sentimental reasons, making it my 3rd RTR model in a year, which is more than in the last 10 years put together. We really have never had it so good! Tony Edited September 6, 2014 by t-b-g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coniston branch Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Bachmann haven't provided a driver & Fireman for years - and IIFC none of their "Blue Ribbon" release have ever had them, only the split chassis designs dating back at least a decade. If you require a set of crew there are plenty of options out there at a range of prices. I think what Chris was asking was which side to fit a driver and fire man from Bachmanns loco crew set. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Tested my model today and sounds like a skeleton in a biscuit tin. Is the motor supposed to be this loose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Tested my model today and sounds like a skeleton in a biscuit tin. Is the motor supposed to be this loose? Try tightening the screws that hold the motor yoke down. They are occasionally loose when new. Keith Edited September 6, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Try tightening the screws that hold the motor yoke down. They are occasionally loose when new. Keith All screws tight and motor clips fully fastened down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I think what Chris was asking was which side to fit a driver and fire man from Bachmanns loco crew set. Phil Yes Phil that is what i wanted to know Left or Right hand driven. Will post in Help section Thanks my friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2014 All screws tight and motor clips fully fastened down. I have had the top off mine and the motor does not wobble about like the one in the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yes Phil that is what i wanted to know Left or Right hand driven. Will post in Help section Thanks my friend It is RH drive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2014 Unfortunately, mine will be being returned. Upon opening the box I was disappointed to discover the whistle snapped off and the safety valves bent :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yes Phil that is what i wanted to know Left or Right hand driven. Will post in Help section Thanks my friend Right hand drive, easiest to look at which way the regulator handle points and which side the reverser is on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 Does anyone know whether the Bachmann 6 pin decoder will fit. The instructions about conversion simply mention that the decoder needs to be compliant. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know whether the Bachmann 6 pin decoder will fit. The instructions about conversion simply mention that the decoder needs to be compliant. Thanks I've used a Lenz 6-pin and there is plenty (well enough!) room so I would imagine Bachmann's own decoder (36-558A) will fit. Keith EDIT Bachmann claim their decoder is 19 x 14 x 5mm, Lenz is 10.6 x 7.5 x 2.6mm I would take the Bachmann claimed size with a pinch of salt as it would make it nearly as wide as their standard size decoder!! Edited September 6, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Couple of pic's of train crew added and real coal on top of bunker 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 I couldn't resist taking one apart. With a Bachmann chip (36-558) The motor is loose in its mount and can be rotated slightly by hand. It doesn't move when the loco moves, so doesn't seem to be a problem. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 HI folks, I have now got two of them (BR 41661, and LMS 7125) and both are fantastic; no problems with broken part, running, or loose motors. Neil (Nile), thanks for dismantling one as it offers some ideas as to what Bachmann may be able to do in the future as regards variants. The only question I have is: how does the cab come off? Many thanks. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted September 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) With some difficulty. Most of the pipe work is attached to the backhead, which is part of the body molding, but one bit is attached to the cab front wall which slides up out of the body. Fortunately the pipes are quite flexible. There are lots of screws holding this thing together, check they are all out before trying to pull it apart. Edited September 6, 2014 by Nile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I couldn't resist taking one apart. 1F_1.jpg With a Bachmann chip (36-558) 1F_2.jpg The motor is loose in its mount and can be rotated slightly by hand. It doesn't move when the loco moves, so doesn't seem to be a problem. Your a better man then me my friend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Any listing anywhere of when 41708 has run open cab in preservation or is it a relatively simple alteration which means it can be either open or enclosed cab within a matter of hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Any listing anywhere of when 41708 has run open cab in preservation or is it a relatively simple alteration which means it can be either open or enclosed cab within a matter of hours. No help on preservation, but the cab wasnt something to be switched out whenever you felt like it. It was part of the engine. Just like any other component. Yeah you COULD change it out but that would require workers, a workshop, and time. Not something for any odd day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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