RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 7, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2013 Just seen on their website that Kernow Model Centre have commissioned a new tooling for china clay wagons in "n" from GF both with flat and tented tarps. So when did tented tarps start being used. See http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com for more info. I can see the CC being waved in the direction of the website for a few of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Just seen on their website that Kernow Model Centre have commissioned a new tooling for china clay wagons in "n" from GF both with flat and tented tarps. So when did tented tarps start being used. See http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com for more info. I can see the CC being waved in the direction of the website for a few of these. I'm pretty certain it was in the early 1970s; certainly not much before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 7, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Brian. I don't want them then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 So when did tented tarps start being used. From 1974 according to my ref material. Matt Wood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 8, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2013 This is great news! I'm over the moon! Hopefully the tarpaulins won't be the chunky textile type the OO ones have, in which case I'll be sick as a parrot! Just right for the 22 methinks, and the Western, and the 25! Don't suppose they'll have NEM couplings though, as the 9 feet wheelbase chassis will probably not have room. Maybe Kernow will comment on this at some stage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2009 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Kernow are to be congratulated for this move. There has been a fascinating variety of limited editions and commissions in OO in recent years, but (with the notable and honourable exception of the NGS and one or two retailers) precious little for N gauge modellers. I hope these wagons sell well and encourage Kernow and others to dip a few more toes in the water. Now then, about that N gauge Well Tank .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 11, 2013 It also mentions original axle boxes which I guess means its not a shrink of the 4mm version Just seen Model Rail which confirms it's to have NEMs--great news; my order's going in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Good thing I hasn't yet butchered my kit built ones for the Dapol conversion. One of these at either end of the rake will be much easier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I am very pleased to see the flat topped clay wagons. Flat topped clay wagons were used on the Swanage Railway on clay trains to Furzebrook and Eldons Sidings. The Furzebrook clay trains were pulled by a huge variety of locomotives including an M7s, 700s, BR 4MT 2-6-0s and 2-6-4Ts, West Countries and Class 33 diesels and this part of the line remained open long after the track was lifted on the Swanage Railway. Eldon's Sidings closed earlier. Kernow's wagons are different from the Swanage Railway clay wagons but they give a good impression of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2009 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Had an email from Kernow earlier today saying they're now in stock and on their way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 26, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2014 I picked mine up on the way home from work today, very nice that they are. A nice long rake of them should look rather good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 A couple of quick pictures taken of the wagons earlier today. I haven't put the sheets on or looked at the detailing extras that are in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Judging from the photos, it looks like they are not fitted with NEM couplings, is that correct? They look nice but they are more than twice the price of the NGS kit version (even allowing for the cost of the Peco chassis). Here is one I built in unfitted grey. At the time I thought I had been a bit heavy-handed with the weathering and clay dust but looking at the Farish version it seems about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 That's correct. Unfortunately Farish still seem to be keeping to the old style couplings on their small wagons. (Edit) Well let me take a great big step back from this statement. I was wrong the couplings are NEM). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 That is very annoying. I brought mine specifically because they said they would have NEM coupling pockets so I could fit the Dapol couplings - rather than adapt my existing kits. I am rethinking whether to cancel my order nad just adapt my N gauge society kit ones to take the couplings Grrrr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 That is very annoying. I brought mine specifically because they said they would have NEM coupling pockets so I could fit the Dapol couplings - rather than adapt my existing kits. I am rethinking whether to cancel my order nad just adapt my N gauge society kit ones to take the couplings Grrrr. Just been and double checked and I was wrong in my earlier post, they are NEM coupling pockets. When I had looked (glanced) before this wasn't something that I had noticed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hello all, I don't have any of these as they are not my era but from the photographs they look to me as if they DO have NEM sockets - the giveaway is the self centering copper strips. Certainly recent 4-W wagons I've acquired - OBAs, SPAs, TTAs - all have NEM sockets with these springs. Perhaps it might be best to wait for someone who actually has a set to give the definitive answer? Cheers Ben A. EDIT - Ha - Kris beat me to it! Thanks for checking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJ Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Panic over! I have just phoned Kernow to check and they have confirmed that they DO have NEM pockets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2014 are they the wrong wheelbase? I make the wheel base 9ft. Off the top of my head I don't know if this is correct or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted February 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2014 The wagons look very nice but yet again emphasise just how awful that rapido coupling is. Even the big NEM pocket ruins the profile to my eye. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted February 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2014 See the previous posts under NEM coupling pockets-new design; these are new tapered pockets so they don't foul the wheels on these extremely short wagons. Hopefully the minerals and tipplers will be re-tooled to incorporate these. It seems that the couplers don't pull out easily--I chickened out! They do couple nicely close but maybe need the weathering painted black or track colour to make them less conspicuous. The hoods are thin moulded plastic with a self-adhesive strip and a big improvement over their OO cousins' chunky fabric. Even the coupling hooks seem much easier to fit than on other Farish wagons, though this may be due to the weathering highlighting the hole! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 My set of three china clay wagons made in China arrived today. The picture shows a Union Mills 700 0-6-0 hauling them out of Challow Hill Cutting on the Swanage Railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yup they're definitely NEM pockets. I've just done some snaps for the mag review; I'm particularly impressed with the hoods and tarps; the 4mm ones are crying out for similar treatment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2014 I agree Andy those hoods are excellent and the underframe and brake gear detail is light years ahead of what was being produced in N just a few years ago. Unfortunately your front 3/4 views really accentuate how awful that coupling is. I think perhaps that the fact the prototype is such a stumpy little thing makes it worse. I am toying with the idea of a little china clay layout so will be getting a few of these - I think better wheels and, particularly couplings will transform what is already a very good model. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I really like the earlier ones with the flat tarpulins, but would they have been used in the early to mid 80's BR Blue era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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