RMweb Premium Crepello Posted June 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2013 I note from the Farish site this this has been put back till Dec/Jan. Never mind, perhaps I'll have time to get some answers from the experts out there. My question is:- Farish have announced 2 rivet patterns; I intend to re-number into LTS stalwarts 42222 and 42678 (clearly numbers which appealed to me as a child in the fifties!). Which of the Farish models should I choose as the basis? Thanks in anticipation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 13, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2014 I note from the Farish site this this has been put back till Dec/Jan. Never mind, perhaps I'll have time to get some answers from the experts out there. My question is:- Farish have announced 2 rivet patterns; I intend to re-number into LTS stalwarts 42222 and 42678 (clearly numbers which appealed to me as a child in the fifties!). Which of the Farish models should I choose as the basis? Thanks in anticipation. Well I got absolutely no replies! Now the Farish site shows lovely pics of the imminent models and again mentions the rivets--this time applying to SR and LMS allocated locos. I can't be the only one needing an answer (or can I?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Possibly because nobody knew the answer- including me! However, I do have a few books.. My LMS engines book gives the build dates as 1945 (2673-99, 2200-17), 1946 (2218-64), 1947 (2265-99 and 2187-9), 1948 ( 42147-82, 2190-9) 1949 (42107-32/83-6), 1950 (42050-78, 42096-42106 and 42133-56), 1951 42079-95. Looking at pics elsewhere, the rivet pattern on Farish's 2691 is in pics I have of 42284 and 42696, both pre-nationalisation build.. I would suggest the pattern of rivets found on the Farish 42073 and 42096 might just be the Brighton-build locos of 1950-1951 . Your pair are 1946-built (42222), and 1945-built (42678), which means the rivets on the Farish 2691 in LMS black or the weathered 42267 are the right pattern. Hard luck- it either means disturbing the weathering to renumber, or lining-out a plain black one yourself. I'm lucky- 42073 was an NER-allocated loco. Hope the info is useful even if not the easiest answer to model... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 There's a detailed discussion of Fairburn rivet patterns (with pictures) here - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/10799-Bachmann-fairburn-tank-rivet-patten/?hl=%2Bbachmann+%2Bfairburn . I don't think having to renumber a weathered example should be too bad - very dirty engines often had just the number wiped clean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks very much guys. I never thought of myself as a rivet counter before this! It would be nice to have an accurate loco but the weathering on my green 08 is very stubborn, so I might take the easy option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 When are these expected in the shops? Have I got time to build my kit? (been in the to do pile for 5 years) Oh the pressures on so little time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Other forums are reporting traders saying they will be in the shops next week.... Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hattons have emailed me to confirm my order and say my card is about to be debited. That makes 42073 at least fairly imminent.... All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Chaps thanks for the update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Had mine yesterday and it is a fantastic runner. Pickup is via the driving wheels only but it runs over Insulfrog points perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Any chance of some pics.... Cheers,Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted January 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2014 Pics on the Grafar ad in Model Rail (delivered yesterday). Looks very good. Why do they take the pics on Code 80 track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 We LMR modellers are certainly being spoilt at the moment with some really good models but am I alone in wanting more? What about something with a parallel boiler?? hint, hint Mr Bachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 22, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2014 We LMR modellers are certainly being spoilt at the moment with some really good models but am I alone in wanting more? What about something with a parallel boiler?? hint, hint Mr Bachmann What about a big dirty beast of an 8F too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Good point, as much as I like the 2 I have we could do with a new model, I think I might help everyone one by starting my own model, going on past experience, as soon as I do farish will announce a new model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted January 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2014 The postman arrived with my Fairburn this at 07:00 this morning. Something of a record for the Royal Mail! I had told myself I would only purchase engines suitable to the Ropley project, i.e. based engines or those that have visited the line, but i'm a sucker for a big tank engine and as there are 2 in preservation it's not beyond the realms of possibility one may visit Hampshire at some point in the future! Anyway, the model is yet another superb product from Farish. It's difficult to describe the quality of the mouldings they are producing these days without over using the same superlatives, but the Fairburn is certainly up there with the best of their recent releases. The fine edge to the running plate ahead of the tanks is particularly nice. Running wise I'm pleased to say that my example was a good runner straight from the box, and that has improved further since running for a couple of hours. There is a tiny bit of a horizontal wobble, but this is only noticeable when running at speeds well in excess of anything that will be seen on Ropley. Current collection is only from the main wheel sets and so there are no traction tyres, but haulage capability appears more than adequate. Interestingly, the packaging is of the same design as the WD and B1 and the model is held firmly in place with no part of it touching the motion. All of the recent GF models which I have had to return have used the vac-form tray type, whilst those received in this style have been fine. I'm certain that if they were to standardise on this style of packaging they would see far less problems. As with the 5MT, there are no front steps provided in the little bag of goodies, but it does come with drain cocks and fire irons. The DCC chip protrudes into cab floor in a similar manner to the 3MT, so once the chip is fitted it may need disguising to avoid it being visible. All in all though this is another fantastic little model from Farish. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What a little stunner, I guess I may just pop along to Hattons and spend some dosh on a model rather than build the kit I have for one lurking in my "one day" pile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 My 42073 is still somewhere in tr postal system. Based on the reports from here and elsewhere I am looking forward to receiving it. Notable that at Hattons their initial stocks of the Late Crest and the weathered one are already sold and they are having to re-stock. Same happened with the weathered J39, it seems that the factory-weathered models are becoming very fast sellers. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I do hope Hattons haven't run out of late crest 42073s. Mine's gone back..... Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 All Fairburns are still showing in stock at Barwell so I am asuming it is just a question of Hattons waiting for their next shipment having sold out of the initial one but your replacement may not be instantly despatched I suspect. It appears from the speed they are selling that this is a popular prototype. I have to say I am very happy with mine, it runs very sweetly indeed with none of the "oscillation" that you reported. I assume you did not get a chance to see if applying a trace of lube to valve-gear rivets and slide-bars cured the oscillation (as has been reported to successfuliy cure this problem elsewhere) before you returned it? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Any chance of some pics.... Cheers, Alan Sorry just saw this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I want one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted January 27, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2014 Pleased to find that it accepts normal Farish short NEM couplings and appears to leave an appropriate gap when coupled to unmodified Mark 1 suburbans. I found a right-angled 'S' shaped piece loose in the packaging; does anyone know where it belongs? The same applies to the two 'chunky' pieces in the parts packet--they're not mentioned in the leaflet. Hopefully the Standard 4MT tank won't be far behind this cracker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I found a right-angled 'S' shaped piece loose in the packaging; does anyone know where it belongs? The same applies to the two 'chunky' pieces in the parts packet--they're not mentioned in the leaflet. It's probably one of the valve guides from the top end of the cylinders above the slide bars. Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hattons have just rung about my returned 4MT. They agree it is unacceptably wobbly. However they can't replace wuith a better one as EVERY ONE of the locos in stock is as bad or worse! They've refunded my money and placed a pre-order from the next batch with a note to test it runs straight before dispatch. All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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