RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted January 12, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi The pipe work same on production model - all very small mouldings I can assure you having had to fight with carpet monster at one point. Angle of photo picks up on all being separate pipes and having been glued on twice. 33 008 a real minefield with it changing every exam at Eastleigh over a protracted period. Dapol have had a mass of photos showing changes, I will ask and see if it can be tied down... sadly whatever is done will be not quite what a proportion of modelers will want to buy. I would think a later small yellow with D numbers is most likely - easier to repaint with full yellow ends and change numbers likely. The All green full yellow ends will be a repaint job of a blue shell. Cheers Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtwo Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi The pipe work same on production model - all very small mouldings I can assure you having had to fight with carpet monster at one point. Angle of photo picks up on all being separate pipes and having been glued on twice. 33 008 a real minefield with it changing every exam at Eastleigh over a protracted period. Dapol have had a mass of photos showing changes, I will ask and see if it can be tied down... sadly whatever is done will be not quite what a proportion of modelers will want to buy. I would think a later small yellow with D numbers is most likely - easier to repaint with full yellow ends and change numbers likely. The All green full yellow ends will be a repaint job of a blue shell. Cheers Robert Hi Robert, Thanks for the that. I think that it may be the angle the picture was taken at that makes the pipes look odd. After I sent the post I found another picture from a different angle of an unpainted model (probably the same one I expect), and the pipes looked good. I agree with you about 33 008's liveries. Personally, I'd rather have the later livery version produced. As you say the original version would be a fairly easy repaint. One other thing, how long before its withdrawal did 33 008 receive a hi-viz light? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted February 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2016 Expected June/July now according to an email just received from Hatton's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtwo Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Expected June/July now according to an email just received from Hatton's. I received that email too. Very disappointing news. I wonder if Bachmann might yet surprise us with an updated Farish 33 out of the blue, before a Dapol one arrives?!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I doubt it, the Dapol version is well advanced, enough for Farish to see it is a viable model. This isn't OO where firms can profit even with duplicates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I would like a departmental grey one. at least an easy re-paint. they are doing blue, green, construction sector and nse so all main liveries coming out which is good to see. I suppose west coast, drs, ews fragonset and any other less common liveries might come out as specials one day. what other liveries has this class worn? I'm sure I missed some...? tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtwo Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I doubt it, the Dapol version is well advanced, enough for Farish to see it is a viable model. This isn't OO where firms can profit even with duplicates. I doubt it very much too. I was only half joking, but it's becoming rather annoying how even the put back dates are put back again and again. And that's for just about every model from just about every manufacturer. I realise there's only a finite amount of manufacturing space in China, but it seems that all the manufacturers are rather too optimistic with their announcements and schedules. When was the last time an announced model came out roughly (in the same year at least) when it was meant to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted February 24, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 24, 2016 I am fully expecting all release dates to be put back again very soon as the annual Chinese New Year Effect kicks in which usually up the manufacturing sector over there well and true for a couple of months afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DavidLong Posted March 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I've been meaning to mention this for a while. On Hattons website they have: 2D-001-003 Dapol Class 33/0 diesel locomotive D6597 in BR green with small yellow panel I assume that this is a mistake! David Indeed it is. Number should be D6539. Prototype can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/5857224621 1967. Excellent! Edited March 11, 2016 by DavidLong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I doubt it very much too. I was only half joking, but it's becoming rather annoying how even the put back dates are put back again and again. And that's for just about every model from just about every manufacturer. I realise there's only a finite amount of manufacturing space in China, but it seems that all the manufacturers are rather too optimistic with their announcements and schedules. When was the last time an announced model came out roughly (in the same year at least) when it was meant to? Cue Revolution Trains TEA wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdChap Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 There were 3 Class 33 locomotives on display today at Ally Pally. I have attached a photo in case it is useful to anyone. Edwin C. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 They look excellent...Can't wait for the Class 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2016 The Dutch livery looks very wrong, shades of grey all over the shop there. The model itself however looks pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The Dutch livery looks very wrong, shades of grey all over the shop there. The model itself however looks pretty good. The grey must have weathered itself.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2016 Yep. Sides too light and roof too dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Now - don't shoot the messenger please, but pics in this month's Rail Express of the Dutch class 33 is accompanied by the statement that it would be corrected before production, but we heard that with the OO class 73. Brace for impact people...... Edit: it really does look quite good though. Steve Edited March 20, 2016 by steve1023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2016 Oh, here we go........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Actually looking again could it be the roof on the Dutch one is black..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montybrusn1982 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I'm no rivet counter, but how hard is it to get a basic, common livery colour right? It's not like Dapol haven't produced Dutch livery before! It's a real shame, because otherwise it looks like an excellent model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I think we can reserve these kind of posts until after we know that a production model is wrong? It's an EP almost all EP samples have to have something wrong. After all that's why EPs are made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) The 33's do look good. With regards to livery errors, Dapol are still getting the two tone railfreight grey wrong on their 86's with the bottom grey band having a greeny tinge to it. And these are production models. Hopefully the Dutch livery will look spot on once released. Edited March 20, 2016 by cornish trains jez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montybrusn1982 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I think we can reserve these kind of posts until after we know that a production model is wrong? It's an EP almost all EP samples have to have something wrong. After all that's why EPs are made. I'm a railway engineer by trade, and if I'd produced something that wrong, even as an EP, I'd be disgusted with myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingley hall Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I'm a railway engineer by trade, and if I'd produced something that wrong, even as an EP, I'd be disgusted with myself. That's your choice. I'd rather have some idea with caveats a few months out so I can plan my purchases. I saw every Class 33 in service and in most colour schemes in real life. I'm not 'disgusted' with what I'm seeing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I'm a railway engineer by trade, and if I'd produced something that IS wrong, even as an EP, I'd be disgusted with myself. Not everyone is going to be like you... And I don't see the need to either. Even DJM with all his "so called" experience and innovation got the shape of the Class 71 wrong in the first EP... Not many things are made spot on in the first go. If it is then well and good, if not let it be. It's an EP. If it's a production model you have a choice to buy it. So how do you blame yourself? DJM didn't blame himself. It's all done by an external source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Well I'm going to grab a green one. Simple answer is if you don't like the Dapol model, I'm sure there will be plenty of farish split gear specials knocking around... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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