Information on US Freight Cars

[Regularity]

Lime washes were made illegal in the U.K. in 1926.

This may have also applied in Canada, which had very strong ties to the U.K. at that time, and for some years after.

[2996 Victor]

That's what I'd recently read - as far as livestock transport in the UK was concerned, lime washing was banned by Act of Parliament in 1926.

Although the lower sides of the CP cars in the photograph I posted above appear to be white painted I read, also recently (although I cannot remember where!), that they would have been lime washed until around 1926.

But to return to my original question, US stock cars in early 20thC photographs are not lime washed, so what was the standard method of cleaning and disinfecting them between use?

Cheers,

Mark

Edited June 2, 2018 by 2996 Victor

[mdvle]

Don't know when it ended by lime was used in Canada - see p108 bottem left (last page of article on shipping lambs) - http://www.exporail.org/can_rail/Canadian%20Rail_no512_2006.pdf

 

This thread elsewhere indicates steam was used in the US http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/71979.aspx

[2996 Victor]

Don't know when it ended by lime was used in Canada - see p108 bottem left (last page of article on shipping lambs) - http://www.exporail.org/can_rail/Canadian%20Rail_no512_2006.pdf

 

This thread elsewhere indicates steam was used in the US http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/71979.aspx

 

Thanks for that - two very interesting links!

 

So, in the US, stock cars were steam cleaned, at least after around 1907. It'd be interesting to know what happened prior to that, perhaps just a big brush and lots of water.

 

Cheers!

 

​Mark

[2996 Victor]

Thanks for that - two very interesting links!

 

So, in the US, stock cars were steam cleaned, at least after around 1907. It'd be interesting to know what happened prior to that, perhaps just a big brush and lots of water.

 

Cheers!

 

​Mark

 

 

…..and is this Roundhouse offering a genuine D&RGW livery? If so, what era was it in use?

Edited June 25, 2018 by 2996 Victor

[newbryford]

Dunno if this is the correct place.

 

I'm toying with the idea of a small chemical plant on my US project.

Would wagons cars like these be used to carry powder/small granulated products (as well as in "proper" covered hoppers)?

 

TIA,

 

Cheers,

Mick

Edited July 24, 2018 by newbryford

[long island jack]

Those Gons are for carrying steel, like coils, to protect them from the weather

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondola_(rail)

 

Ray

[jamesmc]

Dunno if this is the correct place.

 

I'm toying with the idea of a small chemical plant on my US project.

Would wagons cars like these be used to carry powder/small granulated products (as well as in "proper" covered hoppers)?

 

TIA,

 

Cheers,

Mick

 

Heres some in use carrying copper concentrate/ore, so I would think it would be prototypical.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/mackinacmark/14908934443/in/gallery-94136938@N06-72157648764520476/

 

Regards James

[mdvle]

The following is a message posted to the Resin Freight Car email group:

 

 

It was great to see everyone at Cocoa Beach this year. It is currently 15
degrees and snowing in Buffalo. As I mentioned during my clinic, I am
sharing my handout here.

 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rscctah7pt73urw/AADoQaw_kr2KdNSftQcKb6yba?dl=0


 

The shared link should take everyone to a dropbox folder with 2 files, a PDF
of my Presentation without the Photos, and a Excel spreadsheet containing
the data I have compiled over the past 10-12 years.  I didn't edit the
spreadsheet so there are some tabs that contain information on the rolling
stock I own or want, don't judge me, lol.   The Spreadsheet contains
original data from Tim Gilbert and additional railroad data I have added
from the 1957 and some 1950 ORER data.

 

I enjoyed giving the clinic and I received many compliments on it.
Therefore, I volunteered to give it at RPM East in March. Therefore, I have
set the dropbox link to expire in a month, and then I will update the
presentation for RPM East.  Any questions, you can ask on list or directly
at {email removed}

 

If you weren't at Cocoa the abstract of my clinic can be found here
http://prototyperails.com/PDF/Abstracts_rev04_2019.pdf
 

Edited January 20, 2019 by mdvle

[scaro]

I am wondering if anyone have a drawing of the New York Central Despatch shop boxcar roof they might share? 

 

It  is also called a DSI roof.  It has two crosswise pressings between the 'blades' that run across the car.  Quite different to the Stanray (diagonal panel) or P-S roofs common at the time.   

 

It was used I think from the late 1950s on boxcars built  for NYC and subsidiaries, PC, LV and probably Conrail.

 

I need to build it (not available in my scale.) Branchline make an HO Despatch roof,  a shot of that might be handy, provided it's reasonably accurate.

 

Regards, Ben

Edited March 3, 2019 by scaro

[dave1905]

The thing about the covered gon is that they can't be unloaded at the same facilities as a covered hopper, the covered hopper bottom dumps and the covered gon would have to be rotary dumped or a backhoe/clamshell used to unload them from the top.

 

A lot would depend on what the powdered/granulated material was.  If it was a something that was moisture sensitive, then a gon would probably not be the preferred method.

 

What powder/granulated material are you carrying?

 

[shortliner]

On ‎24‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 17:00, newbryford said:

Dunno if this is the correct place.

 

I'm toying with the idea of a small chemical plant on my US project.

Would wagons cars like these be used to carry powder/small granulated products (as well as in "proper" covered hoppers)?

 

TIA,

 

Cheers,

Mick

 

Mick - not sure how big your project is - but in the Micro/Small layouts section on FB - I suggest a look at Dan Dossas "Hawkins Chemical" (link to overall picture) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2019103171515092&set=gm.773538876359892&type=3&theater , and if you have more space, look at Rob Chants latest  International Pulp & Paper company suggestion ( link to trackplan) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218191546444741&set=oa.2173268196071670&type=3&theater     which I have suggested could be an Up-rated version of Hawkins

Edited March 10, 2019 by shortliner