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I haven't seen "Brighton Road", but I shall certainly be looking out for it - very interesting indeed!

 

Thank you for drawing it to our attention.

 

The railways of London, c1900-1914 must have been absolutely fascinating - so much variety, with things that dated back to the 1860s, rubbing shoulders with some serious high-teckery, and service-patterns that are now mostly-forgotten.

 

Kevin

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Fittleworth - More superb modelling of a wonderful railway. I followed it up on the S4 website and discovered that a lot of the scenic work formed an 0-Level art project. Talented young builder!

 

Here is some Brighton techno-porn. The production locos had a different boiler, of course. But, what about the loco number? Wasn't No.84 "Crowborough", a Tertier?

 

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Fittleworth was also part of the late Peter Korrisons' layout. I had a chance to operate it several times. A brilliant model.

Just for the record, my model of Fittleworth is based upon the real station, at something like 70% of its full length to meet the Scalefour Challenge. Peter's wonderful layout only makes use of the name.

Thanks for the various compliments regarding my attempt.

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 Just for the record, my model of Fittleworth is based upon the real station, at something like 70% of its full length to meet the Scalefour Challenge. Peter's wonderful layout only makes use of the name.

 

Apologies, I didn't know not being knowledgeable about all things L&BSCR. I am a Midland modeller for my sins. Also, sadly discussion of Peter's layout should be in the past tense. He passed away a couple of years ago. Some of his boats went to the Newhaven museum and his stock was sold through the O gauge guild. I think they layout was sold with the house so has probably been dismantled.

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I haven't seen "Brighton Road", but I shall certainly be looking out for it - very interesting indeed!

 

Thank you for drawing it to our attention.

 

The railways of London, c1900-1914 must have been absolutely fascinating - so much variety, with things that dated back to the 1860s, rubbing shoulders with some serious high-teckery, and service-patterns that are now mostly-forgotten.

 

Kevin

Sadly, "Brighton Road" has been dismantled; details of this layout and others by Barry Luck (including "Plumpton Green" - the new one on the exhibition circuit) can be found on Barry's website at www.lbscrmodels.co.uk

 

Mick Ralph

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Here is my Pre grouping layout. I have some backdating to carry out ie rebuild the platform canopy right upto the tranship shed. Few other minor details

 

The layout is a near scale model of Holmfirth and will be based between 1890-1920.

 

A couple of tasters.

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Absolutely brilliant model-making in these photo-posts.

 

I don't know if its all down to builder-skill, or a coincidence, but even the weather looks different between the LBSCR (Summer always comes soonest in the South), Central England, and Yorkshire (looks a bit chilly and damp, even if bright) layouts.

 

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Let me be frank and speak from an entirely selfish point of view!  I love seeing pre-Grouping layouts.  I don't really have funds for trips to exhibitions at the moment, so I am relying upon photos from past visits and what I can find online. 

 

Even at reasonably large exhibitions, such as Peterborough, one often finds only one, or, maybe, two pre-Grouping layouts, and, my own photographic 'archive' will soon be exhausted, but I would love to see more of what RM-Webbers are producing and whatever else is out there.

 

Of course, I'd love to contribute, but I have hardly built a thing yet, and must rely upon the achievements of others for inspiration!

 

Kevin, I see what you are saying about the light - I have some particularly gloomy pictures of Marske to come!

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Hinton Burtle would probably have closed before the Grouping. It was kind of inspired by the West Somerset Mineral Railway if it been connected to the national network, so it was converted to mixed gauge and was operated by the GWR. The WSMR influence was mainly limited to the way I knocked the Wills building kits about. Very little of the stock was mine. Just the coal wagons and the red narrow gauge ones. In the first photo, the narrow gauge goods train is hauled by a broad gauge loco, and is changing sides. Things like side stepping work perfectly when done to tight standards like P4, and I'd never have got mixed gauge pointwork to work with such tight curves and angles in anything courser.

 

Sorry about the grotty photos, but it was a creation of the pre digital 1980s.

 

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Lovely layout there, John.  The track is excellent, the stock fascinating, and I really like the use of the Wills toll lodge kit; it looks very 'in period' as a station building.

 

Dare we enquire as to the layout's fate?

I lifted the track with the idea of adapting the scenic bits for another layout after a good few years stored in the loft, then scrapped it when I sold my last house. I've still got the buildings, and the stock that wasn't borrowed.

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Hinton Burtle was being replaced by Broad Hinton, that was never finished. It appeared at one exhibition where it ran badly, and was never seen again, as life was getting too complicated for modelling at the time. The building and bridges were made by the late Mike Jolly. The only photos I have were taken after years in the loft, just before I disposed of it. I've no idea if the new owner did anything with it. It's a shame I couldn't have kept it, as it would be a lot more advanced than "Small, Broad & Totally Pointless" is by now!

 

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