18B Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Hi, I seem to remember that Rail Express or one of the similar titles had a ncie feature onn the last daysof the Woodhead which included a list of all the trains to have worked over it on the last day? Can I find it in my house, can I.......... Wonder if anyone knows which issue it was in, or better still has a copy of the details? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted August 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2, 2013 Hi, I seem to remember that Rail Express or one of the similar titles had a ncie feature onn the last daysof the Woodhead which included a list of all the trains to have worked over it on the last day? Can I find it in my house, can I.......... Wonder if anyone knows which issue it was in, or better still has a copy of the details? Regards Hi Was it the last 12hours over Woodhead with a handwritten list? If so Railways Illustrated July 2010. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 Afternoon Paul It could well have been, I remember seeing it, but also though that Rail Express had done something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hi, I seem to remember that Rail Express or one of the similar titles had a ncie feature onn the last daysof the Woodhead which included a list of all the trains to have worked over it on the last day? Can I find it in my house, can I.......... Wonder if anyone knows which issue it was in, or better still has a copy of the details? Regards There was an article (but no list) in Rail Enthusiast magazine for October/November 1981 (I doubt that Rail Express even existed then but perhaps you have a more recent article in mind). I was out on the line at various places on the last day from seven in the morning until about six in the evening but I've been unable to find any notes for most of the day. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave75 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Anyone still need this info, I have a copy of the data from the abrail site, that has now unfortunately been lost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted April 19, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, dave75 said: Anyone still need this info, I have a copy of the data from the abrail site, that has now unfortunately been lost? Hi I would be interested. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave75 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) guess it should be Woodheads last shift, timings are past Dunford Bridge, source is a Abrail site that was a newsletter of a pennine railway society? Friday 17th July Down Trains towards Manchester 16:45 76010+76016 MGR 17:35 76051 LE 17:50 76022 LE 22:27 47411 4Z63 Stourton-Garston Freightliner 22:50 76006+76014 6M46 MGR Barnsley Junction - FF (last MGR) 23:54 37064 +37094 4M55 Newcastle -Trafford Freightliner 00:01 76012+76007 LE 00:20 76010+76016 6M10 Tinsley-Warrington 03:18 76028 8M26 Tinsley-Warrington 03:33 37219 6M27 Immingham-Runcorn 05:08 76006+76014 6M62 Parkeston Quay-Edge Hill Speedlink Up Trains 20:11 76014+76006 6E85 Parkeston Quay 21:28 76016+76010 8E73 Dewsnap-Tinsley 21:50 76007+76012 6Z81 MGR empties - Shirebrook 00:28 76028 8E43 Dee Marsh-Tinsley 02:55 76014+76006 6E80 Ince - Barton-on-Humber ammonia 03:11 47341 4E71 Trafford-Newcastle Freightliner. 03:23 56063(question over number) 6Z82 MGR Empties 04:0147381 6Z64 Garston-Mansfield HBA wagons 37219 was booked to return light to Rotherwood via Woodhead but suffered Engine failure. Edited April 20, 2020 by dave75 odd link 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 19:30, dave75 said: Anyone still need this info, I have a copy of the data from the abrail site, that has now unfortunately been lost? Abrail.co.uk is available via the way back machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20160501000000*/www.abrail.co.uk Bear in mind that the snapshot (i.e. date/year) you choose will affect most of the info, given that it was a pretty much up-to-date news site. Useful to use like this, as an indication of how much things changed over the years! General articles should be ok though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave75 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Can you find a link to the issue for August 1981, that's the source of my data its a good article but didn't want to put it on here if I didn't know who to credit it to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) On 20/04/2020 at 23:09, dave75 said: guess it should be Woodheads last shift, timings are past Dunford Bridge, source is a Abrail site that was a newsletter of a pennine railway society? Friday 17th July Down Trains towards Manchester 16:45 76010+76016 MGR 17:35 76051 LE 17:50 76022 LE Up Trains 20:11 76014+76006 6E85 Parkeston Quay The Down train passing Dunford Bridge at 16:45 was 6M31 16:30 Barnsley Junction - Fiddlers Ferry which I photographed departing from Barnsley Jn. I also photographed the two Down light engine movements (at Ecklands) but with it clouding over by then, I gave up shortly afterwards and drove home to Mirfield. Given that the next train to pass while it was still light (6E85) would have entailed a two hour wait, I think I made the correct decision, especially having photographed 6E85 in quite dramatic lighting at Dunford Bridge the previous evening - there seemed to be no chance of repeating that. Bill Edited March 21, 2021 by Bill Jamieson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Scary to think this will all be 40 years ago later this year! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, great central said: Scary to think this will all be 40 years ago later this year! The cock up of the last passenger train only seems like yesterday, and that was more than 50 years ago! Tempus definitely fugits. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 For anyone who is interested I have an illustrated article in the current issue of TRACTION magazine, mainly using photographs I took on Friday 17th July 1981. Information gleaned from this thread was very useful in preparing the article and has been duly acknowledged. Attached is one of the shots not used - the caption would have read "On the afternoon of the second-last full day of operation, Thursday 16 July 1981, what is thought to be 6M31, the 16:30 Barnsley Junction to Fiddlers Ferry MGR working, comes uphill through the deep cutting on the south side of the grounds of Bullhouse Hall behind Nos. 76 032 and 76 034. The rear of the train beyond the bridge will still be passing the once rail-served but now derelict Bullhouse Colliery, which had closed in around 1957". Bill 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibelroad Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 A little bit off topic but that picture looks like it could be a model, which probably says a lot about the quality of modelling seen these days. Would anyone know the purpose of the wooden staging behind the train? Could it be to protect the line side cables from stone fall or something similar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Hibelroad said: Could it be to protect the line side cables from stone fall or something similar? That seems a reasonable supposition. I've zoomed in on the original picture file but that doesn't suggest any other reason. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted August 8, 2021 Moderators Share Posted August 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Bill Jamieson said: For anyone who is interested I have an illustrated article in the current issue of TRACTION magazine, mainly using photographs I took on Friday 17th July 1981. Thoroughly enjoyed the article Bill, some great pics in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 The first thing that strikes me about the above photo is how clearly that route routinely solved their equivalent of the modeller's dirty wheels problems - two locos with both of their pickups in contact with the overheads. They didn't suffer the problems we have today of not daring to put up multiple pantographs close together for fear of setting up oscillations in the catenary at a resonant frequency and dewiring. Of course the electrical characteristics were quite different, to get the same power at 1500v you need to draw 16 2/3 times the current, and line speed was lower there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 hours ago, AY Mod said: Thoroughly enjoyed the article Bill, some great pics in there. Thanks Andy, glad to hear that. Here's another shot that wasn't used in the article - At just after 07:00 on Friday 17 July 1981, 76012 and 76 007 have just left the exchange sidings at Wombwell Main Junction and are about to buffer up to a Fiddlers Ferry bound MGR train which had already arrived and was awaiting banking assistance up the Worsbrough incline. I was unable to identify the train locos at the time but from photos taken elsewhere the same day and published on the web, I am almost certain that they are 76 032 and 76034. Beyond them is Swaite Viaduct, built to carry the Midland Railway’s Chapeltown Branch Extension to Barnsley (1898) over the Wath to Penistone line, River Dove and Dearne & Dove Canal.. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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