cromptonnut Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Great shots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 John Sandys has some shots on his flickr page Through the Cutting! by John Sandys, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 That's a sight that I think all of us have been looking forward to. Well done to all involved and I can't wait to have a ride on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2013 I also look forward to the day when approaching East Croydon that I can announce 'Change here for stations to Oxted, Uckfield, East Grinsted, Kingscote, Horsted Keynes and Sheffield Park'. Be interesting to see if anyone actually notices!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2013 If I hear that announced I'll come up and introduce myself! Not planning on being there this year sadly. Next expected trip is August 2014 to include a family wedding but which will also include a London Victoria - Brighton ride via East Grinstead, Sheffield Park and Lewes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RJS1977 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Just wondering - is there any particular reason why colour lights have been used on the extension rather than semaphores? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2013 I wonder if they need to turn their locos, which direction is the steepest gradient? (and I suspect that colour lights were both more available and cheaper than semaphores) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 John Sandys has some shots on his flickr page Through the Cutting! by John Sandys, on Flickr When I went to EG on Wednesday last (13th March) there weren't any rails just where the 9F is seen in the photo! JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2013 Is the colour-light signalling provided perhaps as the easiest (and likely therefore cheapest) solution to interfacing with NR at East Grinstead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2013 Is the colour-light signalling provided perhaps as the easiest (and likely therefore cheapest) solution to interfacing with NR at East Grinstead?At present the 'interface' at East Grinstead is a 4 lever ground frame released by the 'one engine in steam' train staff (which for operational reasons is actually a key token). For incoming trains the token has to be transported from Kingscote to E. Grinstead by road, a similar procedure happening in reverse after a train has left Bluebell metals. While E Grinstead has been given a fixed yellow colour light distant, this is simply because reflectorised signs don't work well when the locos only have paraffin headcode lamps. Eventually and I do mean eventually E Grinstead will be controlled from Kingscote with power signalling. Interestingly though the plan is that instead of using traditional levers, the north box at Kingscote will be fired with a 1930s miniature lever frame (as per Waterloo box). Kingscote station and the southern approaches although controlled from this frame will remain semaphores, although motor worked and the current 'temporary' box will go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2013 That is one very smart job on the track/ballast. What a great time for the 'pioneers'; well done everyone down in my old stomping grounds; oh to return to work at Kingscote, especially in the height of summer. Memories, memories....... P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bayford Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I wonder if they need to turn their locos, which direction is the steepest gradient? (and I suspect that colour lights were both more available and cheaper than semaphores) When i was last there in November i was told it was 1 in 58 climbing one side of Imberhome bridge with a level track panel under the bridge and a falling 1 in 60 the other side im pretty sure that is what it was though it may have changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2013 Elsewhere on RMweb, someone was suggesting that the Mogul might struggle up here in the wet. I know the stock was empty, but even so.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2013 Elsewhere on RMweb, someone was suggesting that the Mogul might struggle up here in the wet. I know the stock was empty, but even so.... i hope not! - Presumably the gradient has been calculated for even the small locos and a heavy train..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted March 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2013 Elsewhere on RMweb, someone was suggesting that the Mogul might struggle up here in the wet. I know the stock was empty, but even so.... It might appear to be struggling but at the moment there is a 10mph speed restriction on this section, that will be lifted before the formal opening this coming weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Is the colour-light signalling provided perhaps as the easiest (and likely therefore cheapest) solution to interfacing with NR at East Grinstead? According the the Bluebell's own updates it was down to a national shortage of electric signal motors!! http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/ext/extprog.html#4feb13 and scroll down to 10 August update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2013 That wasn't struggling, that was excellent driving in wet conditions on new track. Wonder if it was Mr or one of the Ms Groomes? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 ive recentley been watching an old video from 1990 where Bluebell traffic manager John Hill is interviewed, saying they have just restored a class 9f after 20 years inactivity and also just opened a 1 mile mile extension, extending to 6 miles with the hope to get back to East Grinstead. talking about the importance of connecting with the national network. that was 23years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 No particular relevance but in the same week the Bluebell will achieve the triumph of expansion into the National Network, the National Network will have contracted (as of Friday) by the withdrawal of the coal traffic from Bristol to Didcot power station (admittedly due to the PS closure)............. We'll need the steam loco's as the electricity starts to run out............. Wishing the Bluebell the very best of success for this weekend and future operation.................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2013 It might appear to be struggling but at the moment there is a 10mph speed restriction on this section, that will be lifted before the formal opening this coming weekend. Indeed, Graham. What I intended to imply was that the loco sounded entirely sure-footed in the wet, just as the class used to when climbing from Deepdene to Dorking Town, past my school..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bayford Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 My comments about the power of the U boat and struggling uphill are based upon the facts having worked on the loco in question and several other U's i was just pointing out that its fairly steep climb there only a class 4 so it might and probably will find it a struggle sometimes with a load of 6 or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 the long straight leading up to the cutting looks a lot straighter now. The Tamper South of Imberhorne by John Sandys, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 And who said it was a Big Boy's Trainset? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2013 And who said it was a Big Boy's Trainset? Everybody likes Big Yellow Machines, or, as my mate's ex would call them "mistake gobblers"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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