David Todd Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 That's very clever, following what nature does - coat the chalk with thin soil, grow the grass, then erode it away in vulnerable places and leave the rubble at the base of the cliff ............. It's a good job nature hasn't got screwdrivers, rasps and other gouges ..... it's fast enough with wind and water J It is only a trial method, some paint and a few more fine layers.The next section, I am going to try, and sculpt in the road roundabout walling. Also the brick arch for the ex turntable. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Your method works really well, particularly as the Foam is easy to dig chunks out of and touch up the exposed Chalk, [Limestone? Sandstone? Granite?] colour later It is only a trial method, some paint and a few more fine layers.The next section, I am going to try, and sculpt in the road roundabout walling.Also the brick arch for the ex turntable.image.jpeg Regards J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 The brick arch may be easier in 2 parts and let into the background cliff [maybe several bits of cliff glued round the arch, too?] I don't envy you doing that one, although it is a great feature to have in the cliff. It is only a trial method, some paint and a few more fine layers.The next section, I am going to try, and sculpt in the road roundabout walling.Also the brick arch for the ex turntable.image.jpeg Regards J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 A foggy day in Dover Town,yesterday. It is frustrating, not being able to gain access,to Shakey beach. The A20 roundabout. by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr The Brick arch. by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yesterday,the fog cleared, Got some photos from an Easterly view, of what I have to try to carve into the Celotex. by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Hmmm...have you actually tried hotgluing those sleeves into the Celotex? And is it dependable? I agree with J about building the cliff facets and it's nooks, arches and retaining walls up as small sections. Is it perhaps better to use a more 'stokerproof' battened piece of hardboard (or ply) * as a robust backing for fusing the various bits and pieces together? You could use the original cellotex as donor for cutting the smaller sections. Doubting Thomas dh J of course has notched up many hours of seat of his pants experience on sandwich construction. Edit *Lighter still woud be a batten frame with a nylon mesh stretched across it. You press your varous bits and pieces onto the mesh with foam cornice adhesive (that squidges around the mesh) Edited March 14, 2016 by runs as required Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 ............................. ........................ J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 (edited) Hmmm...have you actually tried hotgluing those sleeves into the Celotex? And is it dependable? I agree with J about building the cliff facets and it's nooks, arches and retaining walls up as small sections. Is it perhaps better to use a more 'stokerproof' battened piece of hardboard (or ply) * as a robust backing for fusing the various bits and pieces together? You could use the original cellotex as donor for cutting the smaller sections. Doubting Thomas dh J of course has notched up many hours of seat of his pants experience on sandwich construction. Edit *Lighter still woud be a batten frame with a nylon mesh stretched across it. You press your varous bits and pieces onto the mesh with foam cornice adhesive (that squidges around the mesh) No, they are still unavailable. but am quite confident. I am going to carve whole section's,to a depth of one and a half inch,in some place's, also do some add-on's. Will see what happen's on the first section. That bit of wall, is at 63 feet, passes as the roundabout, for the mo, I hope to carve it,in position. Tomorrow, the foil comes off both sides. by ferriesdover, on Flickr ............................. ........................ J Miffed ? Edited March 14, 2016 by David Todd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 No, they are still unavailable. but am quite confident. I am going to carve whole section's,to a depth of one and a half inch,in some place's, also do some add-on's. Will see what happen's on the first section. That bit of wall, is at 63 feet, passes as the roundabout, for the mo, I hope to carve it,in position. Tomorrow, the foil comes off both sides. by ferriesdover, on Flickr Miffed ? Aaah, no ................................ just can't see any Balsa Sandwiches ..................... J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Aaah, no ................................ just can't see any BLT Sandwiches ..................... J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 You can't use that ....... The foam is on the outside - and it's burnt ... ..................... and you are really loosing your touch, with all that glue dripping over the foam ....... and the balsa in the middle has definitely seen better days ...... shame on you for being so lax .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 by ferriesdover, on Flickr These Photos are 20 years old. Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I suppose those pics of the SER approach from the present day buffer stops in front of a gated Shakespeare Cliff tunnel portal qualify for BLT (to fiddle yard) using accepted RMweb terminology. Looking forward to more 'modelled or real' posts. dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I suppose those pics of the SER approach from the present day buffer stops in front of a gated Shakespeare Cliff tunnel portal qualify for BLT (to fiddle yard) using accepted RMweb terminology. Looking forward to more 'modelled or real' posts. dh One you did earlier, dh. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 In the 3rd, 4th and 5th pictures ... by ferriesdover, on Flickr These Photos are 20 years old. Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Dover Town Yard 15-4-96 by ferriesdover, on Flickr I thought the wall looked as if it was holding the scree back, however, there is a door in the wall and another door in, what looks like, a porch. They rather suggest that someone could enter to something behind the walls. Are the 2 doors connected? Are they part of the tunnels under the fort? Regards J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) In the 3rd, 4th and 5th pictures ... I thought the wall looked as if it was holding the scree back, however, there is a door in the wall and another door in, what looks like, a porch. They rather suggest that someone could enter to something behind the walls. Are the 2 doors connected? Are they part of the tunnels under the fort? Regards J No, no, The wall with the doors, is all that is left,of what was a single line Engine shed. The brick arch, sheltered a turntable. See diagram 1862 map. Permission of by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr Single line engine shed and turntable. by ferriesdover, on Flickr Edited March 15, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted March 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2016 Looking at the two old plans, the larger of the two engine sheds placed facing the town looks as if it really ought to be for goods traffic? Otherwise the only sidings left were on the corner facing the foreshore.?? Would make a nice old time setting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Looking at the two old plans, the larger of the two engine sheds placed facing the town looks as if it really ought to be for goods traffic? Otherwise the only sidings left were on the corner facing the foreshore.?? Would make a nice old time setting.I recall someone started Dover Town, in n gauge, couple of 3 year's ago http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/45837-dover-or-not-wcs-new-diorama-2mm-finescale/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 One you did earlier, dh. image.jpeg image.jpeg Ah yes! 'I remember you-hoo' (thank you and goodnight Frank Ifield) But I see I omitted (through ignorance) the LC&DR's harbour station - the one with the tower/chimney that still exists beside the tracks as a private office. dh 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Didn't the space behind the wall with the doors serve as an air-raid shelter during WW2? I'm sure I've seen photos somewhere of the interior. The 'Lord Warden' was the offices for Sealink at one time; it was equipped with a ship-style radio room, used both for training and for communicating with Sealink vessels around the UK. A former colleague used to work there. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ok, now to hire a Sculptor, for a few day's (week's). by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 More! More! dh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Nooooooo!!!! ............................................................... you can't cut the foam ............ without having ................. More! More! dh ................................................ Less ..................... less ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 More! More! dh Nooooooo!!!! ............................................................... you can't cut the foam ............ without having ................. ................................................ Less ..................... less ..... Now, now, behave,or I will send you on an Easter Egg hunt, in the Antarctic , you maybe, gone sometime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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