RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 11, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) These posters were produced by finding the images on the net resizing them to be consistent then the images were resized again to be 4mm wide and 6mm tall ( or 8 x 6 for the LT maps ) and printed on to self adhesive label stock, cut out and stuck onto 20 thou black plasticard. The finished item was then glued on to the building with some acrylic varnish. A quick trip into the loft to place the buildings roughly where they will live. Edited August 11, 2014 by acg5324 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37038 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Although I've never been there, from the pictures I've seen your last picture appears to capture the scene perfectly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted August 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2014 The footbridge is instantly recognisable. Buildings coming along nicely. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Looks great. Looking forward to seeing more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Ahhh, Happy Memories! Just the overall roof of the Motorail Terminal and its associated two island platform canopies to go now………….. BTW, the old Up Platform could hold a loco and 20 coaches! :-) Edited August 11, 2014 by Horizontal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 11, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2014 Ahhh, Happy Memories! Just the overall roof of the Motorail Terminal and its associated two island platform canopies to go now………….. BTW, the old Up Platform could hold a loco and 20 coaches! :-) many thanks everyone for the comments. The Motorail terminal will take the biggest hit on length but will be built like the real thing...probably only 3 roads rather than 4. I can get a loco and 10 in the main platform.... 11 at a pinch. The Brighton to Manchester services were loco and 7 so they can be scale length. the Motorail trains will be reduced to 5 coaches and 4 carflats. I'm guessing by 1980 the scissors crossover didn't get much use? Whilst I'm putting one in its probably not going to be functional. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It wouldn't be the same without the scissors crossover, just as it wasn't after they removed them from Newton Abbot! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) ……..the Motorail trains will be reduced to 5 coaches and 4 carflats. Personally, I would have done it the other way round, as there were always more car-flats than coaches on the prototype - Oh, and a full restaurant car is an absolute must, as I distinctly remember having my breakfast in one whilst the two portions of the train were being joined up adjacent to North Main Box in both 1966 and 1967 - BTW, all the other coaches were first class, no seconds, and the restaurant car was always next to the loco when departing northwards! Edited August 11, 2014 by Horizontal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 A pic of the Departure Board in the Motorail Terminal :-) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Personally, I would have done it the other way round, as there were always more car-flats than coaches on the prototype - Oh, and a full restaurant car is an absolute must, as I distinctly remember having my breakfast in one whilst the two portions of the train were being joined up adjacent to North Main Box in both 1966 and 1967 - BTW, all the other coaches were first class, no seconds, and the restaurant car was always next to the loco when departing northwards! A quick calculation suggests that, if the occupants of each car took one first-class compartment, and each Carflat held four cars, then one first-class coach (seven compartments) would need one and three-quarters Carflats for the associated cars. Should the number of cars per wagon be increased to five, then this figure comes down to 1.5 (ish). This latter would give a ratio of four coaches (plus restaurant car) to six Carflats; suddenly, you can see the attraction of Cartic-4s.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'm guessing by 1980 the scissors crossover didn't get much use? Whilst I'm putting one in its probably not going to be functional. No, they were pretty rusty by then, and the facer in the down platform saw little use except when the Kenny Belle wasn't formed with either a TC set or a DEMU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I've lived nearby for the last 10 years so know the station very well. I kick myself for not photographing it before London Overground got their hands on it (so much worse to use than it used to be!). It's nice to see someone doing it accurately Andy! The photos further up the page really show it coming together well. I was just looking at pictures to try and work out when the scissors were removed. They still seem to be there in 81 but gone by 86. Do let me know if you need anything measuring up. I'm away travelling until February but should be moving back to the area again in March. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I was just looking at pictures to try and work out when the scissors were removed. They still seem to be there in 81 but gone by 86. They were taken out in October 1983, when North Box was abolished after the end of the last Motorail season there :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 12, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 12, 2014 Point taken regarding the Motorail trains....will have more carflats than coaches....does mean I'll have to make even more of them. I have four finished and three part constructed. Will need to wait for some more bargain GF Blue Riband Mk1's ( last batch I got were only £11 each. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Point taken regarding the Motorail trains....will have more carflats than coaches....does mean I'll have to make even more of them. I have four finished and three part constructed. Will need to wait for some more bargain GF Blue Riband Mk1's ( last batch I got were only £11 each. ) It'll be worth it! - Ohh, and don't forget the dark blue protection pads on the car windscreens, which protected them from any vandals that the train may have encountered on route! :-) Edited August 12, 2014 by Horizontal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 It'll be worth it! - Ohh, and don't forget the dark blue protection pads on the car windscreens, which protected them from any vandals that the train may have encountered on route! :-) And for that added bit of realism, around half the pads on incoming trains should be shown as blown up and partly off the windscreens by the wind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Now there's a challenge - How to make them flap realistically in 'N' scale! :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) A pic of the building taken in July 1964 during the period when the overnight sleeper trains from Scotland to Euston where being diverted to KPA As far as I can ascertain, the building was erected when the new LT Bay was commissioned in March 1958, but was primarily built for the Kenny Belle BTW, the substantial footbridge was built in 1930! Edited August 13, 2014 by Horizontal 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 13, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 Nice photo.... The footbridge has been chopped and changed a lot over the years.....lost its windows, lost the SW staircase lost the extension across Olympia way, regained a new SW staircase! To name but a few. Flapping windscreen covers.......I might just give that a miss! I really hope that Bachmann take the plunge and do a RTR Carflats for n scale. there is a Motorail branded GUV due but I think these were not commonly used until later. The kit of the Newton le Willows car carriers is another option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hi Andy, Ultima do a kit for the carflat. http://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/br-wagons.html Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 13, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hi Andy, Ultima do a kit for the carflat. http://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/br-wagons.html Best regards, Jeremy Yes I know and the Newton le willows car carriers...they just look like a pig to assemble, at least going down the GF Mk1 route it's largely only soldering the side rails to the deck that is a major PIA and a source of burnt fingers tips Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Did the Newton-Chambers car carriers work from Kensington? I thought they ran from the terminal at York Way, King's Cross. Useless facts time- Newton-Chambers also manufactured 'IZAL', the well-known 'non-stick' toilet paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontal Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Did the Newton-Chambers car carriers work from Kensington? Don't ever remember them doing so - They definitely went from Caledonian Rd up the ECML though :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 14, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I keep calling them Newton le Willows car carriers when they should be Newton Chambers! I haven,t come across a photo of one at Olympia either ....modellers licence....... just when I was about to give up a remembered this photo. http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p974485281/h1d4ec3b6#h1d4ec3b6 Edited August 15, 2014 by acg5324 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted August 15, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p974485281/h1d4ec3b6#h5ba0ffe A nice early photo of GUV,s being loaded at Olympia and the Newton Chambers car carriers there too http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p974485281/h1d4ec3b6#h1d4ec3b6 Edited August 15, 2014 by acg5324 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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