PGH Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) The 3D parts are being designed by Alexander Clark and will be available from his Shapeways shop, Boxcar Models, in a variety of materials as they become available. The prototype dimensions of the loco have been taken from copies of the Hunslet general arrangement drawings and the Giesl chimney from a drawing supplied by the manufacturer and used for fitting the arrangement by the NCB's Walkden Workshops. Update 28/9/2018: Some problems have been experienced with the 3D parts, including distortion, warping and sizes not within the specified tolerances, so until these are resolved most of the parts are not currently available. Edited September 28, 2018 by PGH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Will the 1/48 scale matter? Anyone going to draw up and offer a Porta "plantpot" chimney? A correct steam dome and firebox backhead might just tempt me into building another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Will the 1/48 scale matter? Anyone going to draw up and offer a Porta "plantpot" chimney? A correct steam dome and firebox backhead might just tempt me into building another. It should read 1/43 scale. I've checked the finished chimney against my original drawings and it is correct for 7mm scale. The 3D designer is a modeller of US railways, hence the 1/48 scale, but he is working from my original 7mm scale drawings and all parts come to me first for checking, so all the parts produced for this project will be correct for 7mm scale. Update: Scale on Shapeways page has been amended to 1/43 scale Edited August 26, 2018 by PGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Thanks. I had hoped that would be the case. Oh, and add mechanical stoker to the wish list. stthttp://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/132029-wantage-tramway-no5-jane-or-shannon-from-the-sandy-potton-tramway-1850/oker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Really like the look of your transparent wagon ‘brakes’ and the video you shared, that looks a very neat solution considering the inability to scale gravity. Hopefully one day, you’ll get the Beyer-Garratt running on DCC, if / when you do, please post a video so we can enjoy it too. I’d idly wondered when someone might convert the RTR Pannier into 7754. Seeing the Jinty on the layout, am I right in thinking that one or two of them were sold to the coal board and one ended up in an orange livery? Afraid my knowledge is lacking on whether this happened in the area you’re modelling. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Seeing the Jinty on the layout, am I right in thinking that one or two of them were sold to the coal board and one ended up in an orange livery? Afraid my knowledge is lacking on whether this happened in the area you’re modelling. Thanks for your comments Andrew. As far as I know the only Jinty sold by BR for NCB service was 47445 to the British Oak Opencast Disposal Point, Crigglestone, Yorkshire in 1966. I saw it there in June 1970 out of use, and noted it was painted black with orange tank sides and bunker and red footplate valances. The following month it went to the Midland Railway Centre at Butterley and I believe its currently under restoration. Three Jintys are known to have seen short term NCB service in Lancashire - 47669 was loaned to Walkden when their ex North Stafford Railway 0-6-2T was restored to North Stafford livery at Crewe for display at Stoke-on-Trent in 1964, it would only have been at Walkden for a couple of months at the most. Bickershaw had two on short term loan in 1957 - 47298 noted there in Feb/March 1957 and 47452 there for a bit longer later in 1957 after BR damaged the Austerity FRED, the loan of the Jinty and repairs to FRED being paid for by BR. There may have been others on loan for short periods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Thank you PGH, your knowledge of industrial steam continues to impress. It was 47445 that I was thinking of, hadn’t realised it was working in Yorkshire rather than Lancashire. The orange is an interesting livery choice. Found this photo of 47445 on Flickr using the information you provided. https://flic.kr/p/4zs5AW Also discovered what looks to be other examples of BR locos on loan, 47289 Williamthorpe Colliery, near Chesterfield. Whilst not Lancashire, thought you might like to see them as the Loco is commendably clean for a BR Loco that late in its life. https://flic.kr/p/hGwASc https://flic.kr/p/a5tXD9 Thanks, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Thank you PGH, your knowledge of industrial steam continues to impress. It was 47445 that I was thinking of, hadn’t realised it was working in Yorkshire rather than Lancashire. The orange is an interesting livery choice. Found this photo of 47445 on Flickr using the information you provided. https://flic.kr/p/4zs5AW Also discovered what looks to be other examples of BR locos on loan, 47289 Williamthorpe Colliery, near Chesterfield. Whilst not Lancashire, thought you might like to see them as the Loco is commendably clean for a BR Loco that late in its life. https://flic.kr/p/hGwASc https://flic.kr/p/a5tXD9 Thanks, Andrew Any idea as to the identity of the the loco sitting behind 47289 on the second Williamsthorpe photie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Andrew, thanks for the link to the Williamthorpe photos. I've checked IRS records for the colliery and this gives the information that locos for shunting were supplied by BR under a long term contact until 10/1967, after which date NCB locos were used (3 diesels) until closure of the colliery in 1970. On 9/8/1955, for example, the colliery shunters were BR 47004 and 58153. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Caledonian, The photographer doesn’t say. Looking at his Flickr page, the photographer also captured 47629 at work at Williamthorpe and 47383 & 47534 in store at Westhouses Shed presumably after their spell at Williamthorpe finished. Apologies to PGH if I’ve taken his thread off on a tangent! I’m finding out how little I knew about Colliery railways and thanks to this thread, finding my knowledge improving. The collieries around the Erewash valley / Chesterfield are quite interesting to me as we’re currently plying our way up and down the Erewash Valley on a daily basis whilst Derby station is remodelled. One of my original driver instructors, now retired, started his railway career at Westhouses and used to regale us new starters with tales of his time taking trains in and out of long closed collieries when we did our basic training. Cheers, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glo41f Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) Oh how I have missed these updates! A marvellous layout and full of ingenious operational accessories. A great credit to you sir! I bet the the system (which it is)is fun to operate. I never saw the collieries in their glory living as I do in East Anglia but you have to me captured the essential elements of their railway operations. Marvellous! Martin Long Edited August 28, 2018 by glo41f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Thank you PGH, your knowledge of industrial steam continues to impress. It was 47445 that I was thinking of, hadn’t realised it was working in Yorkshire rather than Lancashire. The orange is an interesting livery choice. Found this photo of 47445 on Flickr using the information you provided. https://flic.kr/p/4zs5AW Also discovered what looks to be other examples of BR locos on loan, 47289 Williamthorpe Colliery, near Chesterfield. Whilst not Lancashire, thought you might like to see them as the Loco is commendably clean for a BR Loco that late in its life. https://flic.kr/p/hGwASc https://flic.kr/p/a5tXD9 Thanks, Andrew Not sure if the opencst contractors were Peppers or Hargreaves at this time. Orange was the company livery for Hargreaves lorries and barges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted February 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2020 Any further progress on the layout @PGH? Been a wonderful journey so far. Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 11/02/2020 at 00:16, MarshLane said: Any further progress on the layout @PGH? Been a wonderful journey so far. Rich Rich, There has been a small amount of progress, mainly on locomotive construction and now covered on here:- http://www.westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?threads/moving-coal-a-colliery-layout-in-0-gauge.7692/page-2 Philip 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayfield Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 PGH, I can't see a way to contact you directly on this group but I'd like to ask your permission to share your image below on a local history website about Walkden and Worsley. Sorry for contacting you in this random way but it's the best I could think of! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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