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Hi all, and welcome to my "Projects" place.

Here I will be putting some things for Ffrwd Locks, our "scale" model railway, also some other things that are in progress on the model railway front.

 

First off, inspired by the article in BRM about two canal boat kits, here are some that I made earlier....

 

Crafltline Models "Coal" Butty Boat.

 

This boat was made from the same kit as featured in the current issue of British Railway Modelling (BRM from next month! ;) ).

It was made some time ago, and was modified and detailed as a "No.1's Boat" (Owner-boatman, not a big company.) and has been battered in storage. This one needs a re-build too!

The sheets were held up with ropes from sewing cotton.

The lettering is hand painted, and it shows!

The livery is basically Fellows, Morton & Clayton Limited (The person the model was named for worked for FMC, and Later after Nationalisation, British Waterways as a boatman, ending up on the Maintenance staff.)

When this model was made I didn't have the computer and printer which I would use these days!

 

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Stern End.

 

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Crafltline Models "Coal" Motor Boat...

 

This is one of the "Craftline" series of Balsa Wood based model kits.

These included:

Coal Motorboat
Coal Butty
Sheeted Motorboat
Sheeted Butty
70 Ft "Holiday" Boat
45 Ft "Holiday" Boat
Llangollen Type Lift Bridge (Road Over Narrow Canal)
Narrow Lock Gates

This model was built ages ago, and is pretty much as in the pack instructions.

It is now battered, and awaiting a re-build.

 

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Back Cabin and Engine Room (Engine 'ole)

 

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The Fore End, shewing the "Cratch" (The sheeted construction behind the painted "Deckboard".)

 

 

 

 

 

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A Happy Christmas  to you all.

Some recent work for Ffrwd Locks...

(And a few SR interlopers as well.....)


The Bachmann 3f "Jinty" 0-6-0T now just about finished...in BRITISH RAILWAYS livery...

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A couple of vans...

Mainline LMS Vent Van with sliding doors...More or less as before....added Vacuum pipes,Bachmann Narrow Tension Lock Couplings, ligt weathering, etc...

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After....re-painted and with new numbers (transfers)...

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This one was the Mainline Private Owner Lager Van
After....re-painted and with new numbers (transfers)...


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A few Ex GWR Toads...

Bachmann BR...weathered, etc...

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Mainline "OSWESTRY"....

As delivered...


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After modifications....

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Mainline "SHREWSBURY"...

As delivered...


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After modifications....

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And a fitted example...(Ex Airfix GMR grey one..)

 

I had to make the Handbrake stand...and add the Vacuum cylinder and a representation of some linkage (Inspired by the Bachmann "Queen Mary" Brake van.

(The vacuum pipes may well not be proper GWR pattern! ;)  _

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A Bachmann SR Queen Mary Brake Van...

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Bachmann "Pill Box" Brake Van

The brake van has not had anything done to it...yet!

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Little and littler...

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Merry Xmas Sarah.

 

Thanks...I hope you had a good time, and didn't get too much stormy weather!

 

Happy Christmas to you Sarah,hope you had a nice time..............

 

.Like these..........

 

Well, having spent some time on the South Coast and Bluebell Railway....I really would like a C class, H Class, "Birch Gove" et al, but cannae afford them (The C I want as it was the first Loco I had a footplate ride on!). I may well chop an R1 into an H class...I have a 1962 MRC with instructions!

 

The SR stock now includes a BR Bullied coach as well....

 

Really like the Jinty.

 

The Bacmann Jinty is cute...when I bought this one second hand, I discussed with the seller about the livery, which was BR late crest. I was going to go with the Early Emblem, but the seller reminded me of the "BRITISH RAILWAYS" lettering, so I said yes...as it would match my Hornby 2721 Tank Loco!

 

So I did the deed with some transfers that were in stock! :)

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Thanks for the comments... :)

No prizes for guessing the origin of this BR Mk1 SK....

Re-painted (Not the best paint job..), metal wheels fitted, and a few passengers added...(Numbers still to be added..)

 

Inspiration for the interior of these two coaches comes from the PECO interior kits made for the old Kitmaster Mk1 kits...


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The interior...

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To go with the "Partwork" coach from Hatchette I needed a Brake coach.

This Bachmann BCK was second hand, and needed a buffer and a little TLC...but got a bit more, including a re-worked "cage" in the brake part.
The Brake Van "cage" that was removed was solid! No Daylight could pass through...

The guard is a Tri-ang Railways Driver! (Re-graded!)

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The two coaches together...

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1st EDIT: For more on the Hatchette coach, please see below, after the "Mallard Dismantled" section!

 

2nd EDIT:  Photos re-allocated due to failure o Photobucket to retain linking facilities!

 

 

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The "Mallard" from the " Great British Locomotives Collection" Partwork dismantled...
 

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The complete model on the base...The loco and tender are both screwed to the base from below with spacers. 2 for the loco, and 2 for the tender. The screws are cross head, and in quite tight!
 

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The front of the loco...
 
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Inside the cab 1...
 
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Inside the cab 2..

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The tender 1...
 

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The tender 2...
 
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The tender 3...
 
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The tender 4...
 
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The tender 5...the top. The coal seems to be a bit low? The filler cap looks to be a bit tall? (One for the A4 experts!)
 

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The tender 6...the underside. Cast metal wheels. each is separate, no through axles.
 
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Loco underside. The tender coupling screw also holds the back of the chassis in place. Note the unflanged trailing truck wheels. A fixed truck. Hornby Style! Cast metal wheels. each is separate, no through axle.
 

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Tender coupling removed...
 
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The front bogie. Cast metal wheels. each is separate, no through axles. The screw is the front securing screw for the chassis. The bogie is permanently attached. Not screw fitted.

 

 
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Side view of the complete chassis. Probably the same chassis will be used for the A3? (and maybe others...)
 
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Underside of the chassis. A self tapping screw in the underside holds on the "keeper plate" with the brake gear. (Crudely screwed in. The chassis plate was designed to be glued in place...)
 
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Chassis. Flexible plastic cylinders and rods. Cast metal driving wheels. Some flash, and bits around the edges. (An all in one casting including "axles". The wheels do NOT revolve!).
 
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Self tapping screw removed...

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"Keeper plate removed...exposing the Driving Wheel casting web...(Note the "chewed" middle location hole for a "pin" on the keeper plate, caused by the self tapping screw...)

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The chassis with the driving wheels, etc. removed.  The casting "clips" into place.

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Top view of the chassis...

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Side view of the chassis...

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Driving wheels, rods and cylinders 1. The cylinders simply fit onto two thin pins on the chassis. The cylinders and valve gear are flexible silvered plastic.


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Driving wheels, rods and cylinders 2. The underside...

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Driving wheels, rods and cylinders 3...

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The body underside. The black plate is a push fit into place around the front fixing screw mounting, with a pin moulded onto the plate engaging in a location pillar towards the back.

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The black plate removed to show the inside of the body...

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Inside the body..

 

Note that the front body fixing pillar is NOT on the centreline. It is to the right of centre when looking at the body from underneath!

 

The pillar in the firebox that only locates the black cover plate needs to be shortened or removed to clear a Tri-ang Hornby X.04 motor fitted A3 (Flying Scotsman, also used for the original LMS Streamline "Coronation" locos.) chassis

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The base with the spacers (loose) and fixing screws in place.

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The spacers and fixing screws.

 

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The base top. Note that there are spare holes, for mounting other locos in the collection...

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The base underside.

 

 

 

Plenty of room inside the loco body. The tender is glued together.

A Hornby chassis and tender to fit? ;)

 

EDIT...

 

Yes, a later X.04 motor fitted "Flying Scotsman" A3 chassis has been modified and fits using the two original body fixing points...

 

See later post on here...

 

 

 

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The Hatchette Mk 1 SK dismantled...

(Most of these photos were taken after the re-paint work...)

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The bogies are "clip fit" like old Hornby coaches. The clips can be fragile, so proceed to lever them off with care!

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The Bogies removed...

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The close coupling system revealed after carefully prising off the clip in bogie...

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Carefully moving the close coupler to one side reveals one of the three fixing screws, that hold the body in place...There is also one in the middle of the coach, and of course another under the other bogie...(Posed photo, the body is off in these pics!)

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The screw hole with the screw removed..

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The underside shewing the middle screw, and one end screw (Close coupling unit removed.)

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The underside. all 3 screws removed. (Close coupling units removed.)

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The bogies shewing the clips...Replacement Hornby Metal wheelsets installed. (The bearing holes may need easing slightly. A job for a special tool, or a small hand drill...)

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After removing the 3 screws, which screw into the interior unit, the body can be carefully removed from the chassis. I have marked the "Lav" end of the chassis, so it goes back the right way around... Note the metal weight.

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The body with the roof removed. (clip fit.)

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The roof...above and below...

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The body sides, outside and inside...

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The roof and body sides shewing the locating clips...
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The interior unit...

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The chassis underside with the body removed.

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For the re-paint, I removed the glazing. This is pegged and glued in place, but the glue joints can be broken by carefully prising the glazing away, a bit at a time...

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The window ventilators are moulded into the glazing unit, and can be painted carefully before re-fitting the glazing...

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The almost finished (Requires numbering...) coach...

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The Mallard motored...

Continued from above...

Plenty of room inside the loco body. The tender is glued together.

A Hornby chassis and tender to fit? ;)

Yes, a later X.04 motor fitted "Flying Scotsman" A3 chassis has been modified and fits using the two original body fixing points...

The GBL and Hornby Chassis compared...

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The Hornby Chassis test fitted into the GBL Body...

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The chassis used is a later X.04 (well, a new type X.03 with the plastic worm and no oil pads!) Tri-ang Hornby (probably Hornby Railways) "Flying Scotsman" Chassis. It has the later finer driving wheels, with the centre drivers also having flanges.

The GBL Mallard body requires the locating pillar for the black plate in the firebox removing or shortening to clear the chassis.
The flange under the back of the cab footplate requires removing to be flush with the side footplates, to clear the swinging rear truck.

Locating pillar shortened and rear body modified to clear the Hornby Chassis...

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After the locating pin was removed, further trials...

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The modifications required to the chassis would be the same for any of the "Flying Scotsman" and LMS Streamline "Coronation"chassis based on the reversed B12 /Hall chassis block with the screw on cast box that originally held the bulb for the "firebox glow" feature. (This could even be fitted if required!).

The Cast box is best modified off the chassis.

Chassis Mods. Back box filed down...

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Rear fixing hole drilled out to clear fixing screw pillar on GBL body...

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Front plate notch for front fixing screw...

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Cylinders filed down in width...

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Test fitted with chassis located on rear pillar...too far back!

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Side view...

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With bogie and trailing truck fitted...how I found out that the chassis needed to go forwards in the body...

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The chassis body fixing hole turned out to be to far towards the front of the loco. It needs to be opened out to a slot (that clears the back body mounting pillar) towards the back of the chassis, to allow the chassis to be moved forwards.

A small washer and a new short screw are required to fit the back mounting point. (The original GBL screw is too long.)

The modified rear fixing...

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A fair amount of the rear cast box needs to be cut and/or filed from the back of the box to clear the inside of the Mallard firebox backhead. (see photo above...)

The front chassis extension should be marked for a notch to clear the front body fixing screw, noting that the front body fixing pillar is to the right of the body centreline. The cylinders can be removed, and the extension is also screwed in place and so can be removed to make modification easier.

Another small washer, notched to clear the chassis extension side, is used with the original GBL front body fixing screw to mount the front of the chassis.

The modified front fixing...

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The Tender...

The Mallard tender body is glued to the chassis, there are 2 lugs at the back, roughly in line with the buffers. One broke off on mine. These should be eased first. The centre front fixing pin should then break free when the tender body is eased up at the back.

The GBL Mallard Tender Dismantled...

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The GBL Mallard tender body is a bit narrower than a Tri-ang Hornby A3 tender body.

The two tenders compared...

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To fit the GBL Mallard tender body to the Tri-ang Hornby tender chassis, the body locating strips on both sides and the back of the Tri-ang Hornby tender chassis need to be removed.

New side locating strips from styrene strip can then be fitted to suit the GBL Mallard tender body. These are roughly along the inside edge of the Tri-ang Hornby locating strips just removed. Measure your tender body to check...

The back locating strip is also a bit forward of the Tri-ang Hornby strip. This needs to be positioned so that the front of the tender is flush with the front of the tender chassis. There will be a small "flange" around the two sides and the back of the GBL Mallard tender body when mounted on the Tri-ang Hornby Tender chassis.

New white styrene (blacked on the top and outside) side and rear locating strips on the Tri-ang Hornby Tender Chassis...

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The Modified Tender Chassis (with repaired coupling loop!) compared with a later Hornby "Sound Fitted" tender chassis...

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A small strip of styrene needs to be glued under the front of the tender footplate to engage with the front locating strip on the tender chassis.

If the GBL Mallard tender coal space and coal load are properly glued in place (Mine fell apart easily, so I re-glued it together.), a small hole can be drilled in the coal space (Not the coal) to line up with the hole in the tender chassis, and the original Tri-ang Hornby tender body securing screw and collar used. (With the packing as well if required. Or the weight can be glued down.)

The location to drill the tender fixing screw hole indicated, and the new front locating strip added from white styrene strip...

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The complete model before wheel painting...

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The wheels then need to be painted red (Signal Red in my case...)

Wheels painted...

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Final Body Fixings...

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A Bachmann Loco crew fitted...(The Driver's seat needed mending!) Some pipes and gauges, etc coloured in...

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Two LNER loco head lamps by Dart Castings finish the job...
 
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Motorising the Caley single...the "easy" way.

 

This GBL model is such a faithful "copy" of the Tri-ang original that it is possible to fit the Tri-ang Chassis after making 3 holes in, and removing 3 "pillars" from, the GBL body!

 

The tender on mine has been fitted with Tri-ang tender wheels and axles by drilling with a pin vice through the axle boxes on one side and into the axe boxes on the other side (the centre on went a bit far, and came out of the other side!)

 

The 2 chassis. Tri-ang on top.

 

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The 2 bodies. Tri-ang on top,

 

The 3 pillars that need removing in the GBL body can be seen. (The block below the dome on the GBL body could do with thinning down, but mine has just fitted as it is...)

 

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The tenders. Tri-ang on top.

 

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The two pillars on the GBL tender chassis are best removed...

 

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The GBL tender could do with some weight inside...

 

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The fixing points for the Tri-ang chassis are two slots in the front below the smokebox.....

 

The GBL body has these indicated. 2 holes needed, down to the footplate top edge here...

 

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The rear fixing is a small screw under the cab....

 

The GBL body needs a hole here. The Tri-ang loco uses a countersunk screw...

 

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The two bodies again. Tri-ang on the right.

 

The GBL body has the 3 pillars removed. Tri-ang body on top.
 

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The Tri-ang chassis fitted...

 

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The GBL Chassis with Tri-ang Body.

 

GBL body with Tri-ang chassis.

 

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GBL loco fitted with Tri-ang chassis..

 

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GBL Tender  fitted with Tri-ang Tender Wheels. (Also NEM socket glued in place with Bachmann Coupling!)

 

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First layer of "Coal" applied to the GBL tender top...

 

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Body mountings...GBL.

 

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On the plinth...

 

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Good work Sarah don't forget in Caley days it wouldn't have had lamps on the front running plate the lamp brackets weren't fitted until LMS days and it still carried them into preservation. In Caley days there was a bracket above the smoke box for a lamp or the Caledonian twin arm semaphore route indicator then there was two lamp brackets one either side of the cab at the top of the side sheet above the cut out, these used a unique double lense lamp which showed different colour lights to the front and rear and either side (Bit like a ships port and starboard lamps)

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Ah yes...the old semaphore. I had forgotten about them!

 

So that is what the lamps on the cab sides were for. Thanks.

 

My model is to be as Preserved...on an early run to North Wales.

 

In my reality the historical locos were restored for the Festival of Britain in 1951...so I can run them on Ffrwd Locks in C1954! ;)

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Great British Locomotives Collection

 

Issue 30. Released Wednesday April 1st. (Next issue, 31, due Wednesday 15th April. Southern Railway Maunsell N Class 2-6-0 Tender Loco in BR Black livery.)

 

GWR Pannier Tank and Shunter's Truck.

 

The body is a close copy in parts of the Tri-ang version, but the running plate is separate from the body (as with the GBL B12, which differs in many ways from the Tri-ang original, making motorisation a bit harder than the Caley Single 123!).

 

The top part of the tanks is separate, like the Tri-ang version, but the cab front is moulded as part of the tank top, while the Tri-ang one has the cab front as part of the cab.

 

The bottom of the boiler part is solid, as is the footplate, another separate part, so some cutting out will be required to fit a motorised chassis....

The whole front of the tanks,smokebox, and chimney is green instead of black.

 

There is a separate “brassy” coloured chimney cap, and the Safety Valve cover is a very good copy of the Tri-ang original…solid top, with a moulding seam!

 

The Coupling Rods are also very good copies of the Tri-ang type, and are both on upside down (and on the wrong sides!) on mine (and reported on others)...so just need changing over and inverting for a display model..

 

There is a mis-match with the number on the loco and the plaque. Loco No. 6717. Plaque No. 6719.

 

An interesting choice of numbers as well....Steam Brake Only, so Goods and shunting work (No ATC as well...).

 

6717 information....http:// http://www.railuk.info/steam/getsteam.php?row_id=3209

 

GWR "Shirtbutton" Monogram.

 

Yellow C Route and Power Disk.

 

I do believe that it should be a Blue disk, as these locos were not re-classed as Yellow until 1950, under BR, in recognition to the locos "hammer-blow" being less than most Blue locos. (LMS 8fs were Blue under the GWR system!)

 

The Shunter's Truck is based on the Hornby example....the Hand Brake is in the “ON” position!

 

Mine is now on a set of Bachmann wheels, after drilling out the axleboxes and removing the fixing lugs from under the chassis, where there is a representation of the Drawgear Spring!

 

Nem pockets from Dapol attached on plastic card bases.

 

Hand brake handles carefully “bent” upwards to look a bit more “OFF”…

 

Photos…

The Loco, with the coupling rods removed and replaced the right way up, and on the right sides! (Glued in each end, centre free of glue. The glued pins likely to snap, but a dab of UHU, other glues are available, fixed that!).

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The loco in pieces....The back buffer beam is also a separate part....

 

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The Tri-ang Hornby Body missing the tank top is on the Left....

 

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GBL...

 

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Tri-ang Hornby...

 

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The Shunter's Truck...Hornby inspired....cut off tops to the wheels...No Brake Shoes or Hangers!

 

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Spot the Drawbar Spring detail...

 

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Bachmann (Left) and GBL (Right)

 

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GBL parts...

 

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GBL on Bachmann wheels (Left) and Bachmann (Right)...Hornby Dublo 2-rail track in steel!

 

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This is the old “Airfix” kit, now supplied by Dapol complete with metal wheelsets, and tension lock couplings of the later Airfix GMR type with adaptors to fit them to the kit chassis.

 

The opening doors are a feature, and these kits are often found “unloading” at model coal merchants sidings!

 

Yes, that is one thing this model may well get used for, though this one is fitted with a weight under the chassis, and NEM pocket couplings. (I may use Kadees or small tension locks…undecided at the moment…on Ffrwd Locks.

 

This model has been "Converted" to Morton "Either Side" brakes. (By the simple expedient of leaving one set of brake shoes off, and adding a cross shaft. (Yes, I know that one lever should have a “cam”, but that is a “small” detail! ;)  )

 

The Morton Braked Mineral wagons were "handed". The end door is to the left when looking at the brake shoe side...

 

It has no bottom doors. (C1951 Batch of BR Built Mineral Wagons…)NEM Couplings (Dapol). Metal Wheels (I will use some by Bachmann or the supplied Dapol...)

 

Part numbers, etc. were removed carefully with a sharp "chisel" type knife blade. Top and end door joints scribed in. Moulding marks filled.

 

Metal drawbar coupling hooks fitted.

 

The chassis cross members in the centre were removed to make space for the weight. This is a little deep, but will do for me, as it was in stock.

Other weights like shot could be used by filling in the spaces between the cross members...

The wagon is still to be painted...

 

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One from the Archive…February 2013.

 

Project "Merchant Navy"

 

The "Merchant Navy" project has started, most of the parts having been collected together...

 

The project is to create a Tri-ang Hornby OO Gauge Re-built Merchant Navy loco. The sort of model that may have been made in the 1960s.

 

Following on from Bill Bilton, on the Tri-ang Yahoo E-Group who has done a similar job in TT Gauge, using a TT Un-rebuilt Merchant navy Chassis and modified tender, together with a TT Britannia Body, I am using an un-rebuilt Battle of Britain Chassis (Winston Churchill) and tender (To be modified) together with a modified Britannia body, and parts from the Kitmaster/Airfix/Dapol Battle of Britain kit.

 

The Bulleid centre driving wheels have been drilled out and long Tri-ang Crank pins fitted.

 

The Britannia Cylinders, coupling and connecting rods, valve gear support and valve gear have been fitted.

 

The BoB Bogie and Pony Truck have been fitted.

 

The pick-up wire needed re-soldering, but the motor and large Synchrosmoke unit are all now fitted and running well.

 

The Britannia body cab is too long to use as is, it fouls the tender (It won't fit.). The portion containing the cab doors has to be cut off.

 

As I am using the cab from the Dapol kit (cut off), the whole cab has now gone, and is being modified to make the Dapol kit cab fit.

 

That is the limit of progress to-date...

 

Project "Merchant Navy"

 

Continued...

 

Today the cab has been assembled onto the body, after a lot of detail was removed from the boiler, as the Britannia has a lot of small differences.

 

One that I am not going to address is the dome location! (The MN dome is further back than that on the Britannia.)

 

On the body front, some representations of the Sand Box fillers, and the lubricators, on the running plate have been made and attached.

 

The Tender.

 

MK 1 version. (I may well do this again, but better, now I know how to do it! I have another tender top...)

 

The sides have been cut down, pieces made to fill a resulting gap each side of the bunker, a new top light made and fitted to the tender back, and a cover put over the vacuum tanks.

 

I may not bother converting the back of the coal space to a curved top, Tri-ang made it flat!

 

Photos WILL follow, when they escape from the camera...

 

Project "Merchant Navy"

 

The modification to the centre driving wheels was to drill out the crank pin hole to fit the Tri-ang long crank pin for valve gear, and counter bore the back to allow the squared part of the pin to sink into the wheel back. The pin was secured with "Super Glue gel".

 

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Comparing the modified Bulleid, Firth-Brown wheel with a ready made driving wheel...

 

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The completed chassis. Bulleid wheels, bogie and pony truck. Britannia cylinders, motion bracket, rods and valve gear. Large Synchrosmoke Unit.

 

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The Britannia body on the modified chassis...

 

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With a standard Tri-ang BoB Tender...

 

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A study in front ends... Britannia body and BoB...

 

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The Britannia cab cut down. First cut...

 

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The Cut Down BoB Tender (MK1)...

 

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Tender comparisons...

 

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The conversion continues MN and Tender... (The Dapol Cab. I then discovered that the cab was also "Cut Down" on the re-builds...)

 

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Some Britannia details removed...

 

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The Conversion as it stands tonight... (with a standard Tr-ang BoB...)

 

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Most of the detailing is now complete, including the whistle, which is in an unusual (For UK) position...

 

MN Project.

This is being painted by hand. (I don't have an airbrush, or anywhere suitable to spray.) The first coats are on.

The "final" detailing parts, the "bulges" in the bottom of the smoke deflectors to cover the steam pipes, and some of the pipes under the cab (but cut off as they would probably not been modelled in full in the early 1960s...) have been made and attached.

The smoke box door has been modified. The hinges were too long, and the securing dogs were wrong (One should always be vertical, up and down, as this is the "catch" handle.) The lamp irons are now all there, including the top one.

The first paint coats are on, black and "GWR" Loco Green.

More to come....

 

MN Project.

 

Unfortunately, the chimney is another one of the "errors" that will have to remain. Along with the Dome position, height of the running boards, diameter of the smokebox in relation to the boiler barrel, etc.

(There are probably a lot of “errors”, as the Bulleids were quite a bit different in detail to the Britannias.)

 

That said, I have bored the chimney out a bit from the inside....

 

This is not intended to be a "scale" model. More of a Tri-ang might-have-been.

 

Though Hornby Dublo made a Re-built West Country (Which was also not quite right in a number of places.), Tri-ang could have made a MN, but as they do look rather similar, despite the MN actually being larger, it is doubtful if the suggestion, if made, would have got past the new products committee...

 

Yes, even Tri-ang would probably have got the chimney and dome right! ;)

 

Project MN. Inspiration.

 

The TT gauge model by Bill Bilton, the inspiration for this project...

 

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A Hornby Dublo/ Wrenn body on a Tri-ang chassis by the same builder...

 

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The two models together...

 

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Project MN.

 

The first pictures of the painted loco…

 

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Parkside Dundas PC36 SR (Ex SECR) PMV. Even Planked Version. Plastic Kit.

This is an older issue of the Kit, going by the packaging and instructions...C 1989...

This kit makes up into the South Eastern & Chatham Railway type van, and includes optional parts to make a Southern Railway Built version (1930s, Even Planked type).

The optional parts are the Chalk Boards, and side vents. The chalk boards may have been fitted to SECR vans, as the Bluebell Railway has one in SECR colours. (But this may not be fully authentic.)

http://www.bluebellrailway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/153.html

 

The general purpose Luggage Vans were used for the carriage of parcels, newspapers, and many other forms of general merchandise. The SECR design of 1919 became the standard for the Southern Railway, and such vans were still being built to essentially the same design in the early days of British Railways in 1951. They were rated to run in passenger trains, and were frequently used as extra luggage vans on longer distance trains.

This van was the very last to be repainted from SECR brown, to SR green, in August 1930. Of very simple design, with the metal framing exposed, and planked on the inside, they are easy to maintain. Most of the 45 SECR-built vehicles continued in departmental use on BR right into the 1970s and a couple until 1989.


Southern Railway version...

http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/mls2186.html

Romford metal disk wheels (Coach, 14mm type) and brass beraings are supplied, as are mountings for a Tri-ang Type MKIII Tension Lock Coupling.

Kit Packaging...

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The partially made up kit...

The roof is not glued on yet....painting and glazing to do first!

All the parts in the photos are supplied in the kit, except for the coupling hooks, which are whitemetal ones from out parts stock. Plastic hooks ARE provided though!

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I was wondering about the colour of the window bars.

Some real ones seem to have galvanised bars. Of course, the RTR ones have white lines printed onto the glazing (see Hornby Dublo / Wrenn models...).

Parkside Dundas kit...Part 2....Couplings fitted.

NEM Couplings Fitted...using Parkside Dundas NEM mountings (PA34) on plastic card spacers.

The coupling pocket and hook are Hornby parts. (X.9289)

I am working on fitting NEM pockets on most of the Ffrwd Locks Rolling Stock...I may later fit NEM Kadees....all options open! ;)


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Keyser (Ks) Plastic Kit. SR CCT 4-wheel Van. This kit dates from the 1980s.

I have aquired two of these kits.

As the sides are the same for the CCT (Covered Carriage Truck) as for the PMV (Parcels and Micelaneous Van) I am thinking of modifying one set of ends to make a PMV.

The Southern Railway carried on building what was a South Eastern & Chatham Railway design, adding extra ventilators to the sides below the windows.

The Ks kit has these moulded in, as well as the Chalk Boards below each window.

The side planking is "even planked", so this wagon is most probably a pre-WW2 build, as some later builds used two widths of planking on the sides.

There are no roof ventilators provided...some CCTs it seems did not have roof vents, or at least lost them later in their lifes.

It seems that the Southern Railway called the CCTs "COVCAR", and the Luggage (PMV) vans "PLV" Passengers Luggage Van. Some were lettered "LUGGAGE" in the bottom right corner.

So far, I have made a good start on one kit.

I have opened out the rounded corners of the windows, as the real ones are squared off.

The kit provides plastic Tension Lock Couplings, and Plastic "Mansell" Coach Wheels.

I have fitted Hornby metal 14.1 MM Coach Wheels, and NEM mountings from Parkside Dundas (PA34), with Hornby NEM couplings and pockets.

I have added a floor (not provided in the kit) and fitted a brake cylinder and other parts from a Parkside Dundas PMV kit (there are two sets in th eParkside kit).

A chunk of metal has been glued to the floor as a weight.

For the age of the kit, and the simplification made to the details to bring the costs down (one box has a price of £0.99 on it!) it isn't too bad.

I also have an ex Hornby Dublo Wrenn version, and that is being detailed. It compares well with the Ks Kit!

The Dapol OO gauge model is basically a re-toled Hornby Dublo / Wrenn body, but with the doors made part of the body, so they don't open!

The Bachmann models are probably better, but there is also the Parkside Dundas kits....see other posts for The Parkside kit I have...

The packaging and parts laid out...

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The rather basic instructions...

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Prototype pictures...

1745  NO.76  SR  UTILITY VAN  CCT

http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=473

http://www.departmentals.com/photo/083431

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/srcctdepartmental/hb075975#h1f1a8108

Also some more information....including models....

https://grahammuz.com/2012/03/16/talking-stock-5-sr-luggage-parcels-and-utility-vans/


There were bogie vans, the bodies of which look just like 2 of the 4-wheel van bodies mounted on a bogie chassis....some were modified to carry elephants!

http://www.rcts.org.uk/features/carriages/content.htm?id=carriages/srguv

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