Chameleon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I hadn't realised Bachmann were producing an LMS inspection saloon in OO. I saw a pre production shot in this months Hornby mag. I always wanted one in ~BR maroon. Did they get the drawings/research off the N gauge society or is it of another variety? Not sure how I missed that this was coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hello Chameleon, Bachmann did all the reasearch for the NGS model themselves - the LMS is a particular interest of their designer, Colin Allbright. The NGS did provide some assistance with the liveries, but that was all - and in any event it was primarily around the more modern liveries which aren't the ones being offered in OO I believe. cheers Ben A. (NGS VP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Theres at least one running on the network in maroon, while plenty of others are on preserved railways running in heritage liveries. Bachmann really is onto a winner here, they will fly off the shelves and you can bet the repaints beckon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hello David, Which is the one running on the network in maroon? I'm tempted to do a renumbering! cheers Ben A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 This is indeed good news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Hello, Theres this one, although its not quite the same style as the one to be released by the team in Barwell. http://www.blackhatrailwaypictures.co.uk/p987753631 and then another http://www.departmentals.com/photo/45020b which Im sure might still be about on the mainline today. Further to that, theres a Brown and Cream one out of Carnforth with the WCRC stock, although that might now be going maroon same as the rest of their coaching fleet. EWS did have some that were used and one of those might be maroon now. To be honest, need to double check.... Edited September 22, 2013 by The Black Hat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hello David, Thanks for those links. As you said, only 45020 is an ex-LMS Saloon of the type produced for the NGS by Bachmann, and it has been heavily modified and now has B4 bogies... Reports on www.departmentals suggest it may have been moved to Scotland in 2011 after spending sometime at Toton. cheers Ben A. (NGS VP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know if the inspection saloon received the carmine and cream livery during the early BR period? I saw one in this livery on the Stainmore Summit layout at Railex NE and was wondering if it were authentic.I have now remembered that the inspection saloon on Stainmore Summit was the ex NER one not the later LMS version. I was surprised to see this in carmine and cream and again wonder if it is authentic. Edited September 24, 2013 by nerron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted September 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2013 For photos of Bachmann's Inspection Saloon, see Godfrey Glyn's two at post 70 on the Bachmann Colectors Club Limited Editions Summer '13 thread here. As the samples shown are in grey, they don't help with liveries, but they show the bogies (and other detail, which is fantastic) nicely. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know if the inspection saloon received the carmine and cream livery during the early BR period? I saw one in this livery on the Stainmore Summit layout at Railex NE and was wondering if it were authentic.I have now remembered that the inspection saloon on Stainmore Summit was the ex NER one not the later LMS version. I was surprised to see this in carmine and cream and again wonder if it is authentic. I can comfirm they received carmine & cream in the 1949-56 period. The first six did not have recessed door handles.... Edited September 24, 2013 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted September 24, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2013 Hello Ron, When researching liveries for the NGS model we found some photos of carmine and cream saloons with black ends. There was one published in Model Rail a few years ago. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks Larry and Ben for your responses.I was confident I would find the answer here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie.dunn Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I'm planning to get one of these. I may only be 17 but I love unique railway rolling stock / locomotives.I maybe an LNER man but I have recently Brought a Hornby 28xx, a GWR horse box and a brand new shunters truck just because they are strange. But i really can't wait for this coach in BR late maroon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Any news of progress on this front? Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 According to the Bachmann coach product page they should be release in Sep/Oct. Price is still TBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Just noticed on the Kernow website that the RRP for these models is £49.95. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Just noticed on the Kernow website that the RRP for these models is £49.95. ouch!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) Not surprised. Without the 20% hike announced it would have been little over £40. When you consider the level of detail involved in this model, it can't be that far off a loco in terms of detail components and design work (albeit not requiring mechanism). Also figure that it is a 'one off' coach - they will never sell the same volumes as, say a Porthole, people are not going to be buying them by the rake-load (though doubless hattons will sell them in boxes of 4!) coupled with the fact that unlike a complete type of coach, there are no varients (BSK, TO, FO all with common bogies, chassis, deail components, etc etc) to spread the development work accross. Edited May 7, 2014 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) Just noticed on the Kernow website that the RRP for these models is £49.95. Thanks. Sounds a good price for a well-detailed RTR coach. Not the easiest to build, detail, glaze and build an interior. But this is a wide church and no doubt those who have never built ow't will consider it expensive. Speaking as one involved with carriages, I'll bet it will sell like hot cakes. Edited May 7, 2014 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Youch, makes the N Gauge version look like a positive bargain! Time to switch to the smaller scale! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) And how much was the Hornby Observation coach ! and that sold well. Seems a good price. Have had one on order since they were announced. Edited May 7, 2014 by johnd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted May 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 7, 2014 Quite cheap for a whole train. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Having pushed and pulled the the Newton Heath (well thats where we always left it) inspection saloon around the NW, that was certainly maroon in the '90's. Cant remember the number so it may have been of BR origin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Having pushed and pulled the the Newton Heath (well thats where we always left it) inspection saloon around the NW, that was certainly maroon in the '90's. Cant remember the number so it may have been of BR origin. What was you using as motive power 25/31 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 What was you using as motive power 25/31 ? A 25 in the 1990s would be wishfull thinking.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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