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Welcome to my main layout, Edgware GN, I, like most people wanted a main line layout, but as usual, space limitations dictated otherwise,, Edgware is 13'x8', and with a bit of compression I've managed to fit almost everything in.

 

Edgware, is/was a single line branch in North London, which is a pretty rare thing in it's self, and survived until1964, although it lost it's passenger service in 1939, at the outbreak of WW2, I've changed history and kept the line open to at least 1970, which allows me to run a few diesels, I've also added a branch off to London Coney, (which gives me a circle, to the fiddle yard).

 

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I guess as you know that the plans before WW2 were to divert the line into Edgeware Northern line station and then through to Bushey Heath with a possible extension to Watford Junction.

 

The Train sheds were built south of Elstree and used during the war to build aircraft, then as the Repair works for London Transport Routemaster  buses. There was also a start made building the Viaduct north east of Edgeware where the remains of them still stand. I guess it would have been the end of steam on the line though for passenger services

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Having to go to High Barnet several times recently it did occur to me that the LT/LUL ex-GNR branches in north London would make interesting 'what if...?' models based on the premise that they hadn't been transferred to LT. The level of traffic would presumably have kept them open so post-war LNER, BR steam, green and blue diesels  and electrics would all suit. Freight traffic would almost certainly have finished in the mid 60s. The GNR station at High Barnet is a neat, compact terminus and would allow for intensive operation to represent peak time traffic. Recent RTR releases have provided suitable steam era stock (although quad-arts would probably be more appropriate?).

 

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G'Day Gents

 

Thank you for your interest, the Northern Heights is a fasinating subject, all the things that were proposed, lines from High Barnet to Potters Bar, to bypass the tunnels at Hadley Wood, great stuff.

 

Her's a few more pics, the O1 (Gresley built) is about 30 years old, and is starting to show her age, she is made out of a bicycle pump and a GEM chassis, I'm not very good with valve gear.  The Brass C12, is being updated at the moment, and is usually found on the Edgware-Finchley push-pull, and will share duties with the Sentinel railcar when finished.

 

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G'Day Gents

 

Another update on Edgware, bit to hot to go outside at the moment (46c forecast) but I did manage to get out to the shed a couple of weeks ago, I did some ballasting in the goods yard and have been plastering the forecourt and roadways, I've started to rub it down, ready for scatter etc.

 

I bufferstopshave been taken out as whist looking at some old pictures I realised that the branch had been shortened in the 1930's by about 75yds and a new concrete retaining wall was built across the track bed and a new building, put up across the old trackbed.

 

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G'day Gents

 

Almost 2 years since my last update, where did the time go, things are going ahead, new scenery, has been added, but still a work in progress, I'm getting there, new loco's and rolling stock, as usual have dominated my time, A Hornby N2 has been rebuilt into a N1, a Q1 0-8-0 freight engine and a J4 0-6-0 have been adapted out of various bits a piece's, Ian Kirks coaches, are still being collected, for the mainline interests, (mainline coaches were, used on the branch at weekends) Hornby's have not been considered, as they look 'Yuck' The older 'shortie' Gresley coaches have been repainted to look like 'Teak' and are used on 'Southend-on-Sea' day tips, good excuse to run GE loco's, up the branch.

 

I'll let the pictures do the talking.

 

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G'day Gents

 

Siberian Snooper, I can give you a bit of a run down on the buildings, the large goods shed started life as a Hornby goods shed, but was far to small, so it was taken to bits and extended, it's still to short, compared to the real one (by about 30')

The water tank is a wood framed base, covered with plastic brick sheet, the tank is a cut down Airfix water tank and again cover in a thin plastic sheet, the roof is also plastic sheet, the inside of the tank base was once a coal stage.

The station buildings are scratchbuilt in plastic but are still a work in progress, the station masters residence is almost complete, I just need to finish the chimney stack, the booking hall needs a rebuild, it warped when the outside temperature hit 46c, the rest of the station/staff rooms only need the roof fixing.

 

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G'day Gents

 

Although my primary interest is the LNER I do have enough loco's, stock to run a BR timetable, including a Cravens 105, which would if the line had stayed open, been a common feature of the branch, it's doubtful if a Baby Deltic would have made the trip to Edgware, even with a coal train, but I suppose anything can happen when rule one is applied.

 

I will endeavour to picture some of the classes that 'may' have reached Edgware, if it had closed a lot later and kept it's passenger service until (at least) 1970, although if it had kept it's passenger service until that date, we may still have that service today.

 

Also I would like to wish everybody a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

 

Piccy time.

 

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G'day Gents

 

A newish train has taken to the rails at Edgware, made up of Lima and Hornby tankers, these have been taken apart repainted and had mainly Trains, United Dairies transfers fitted, these tankers were sometimes run up to Edgware to get them out of the way (morning peak), the J4 I think is more suitable than the Q1 (the J4, still needs it's number finishing)

The Tourist set is almost finished, just needs a tidy up before applying it's transfers.

 

The J1 (3012) is now a runner, I just need to make a draw bar for it (time time time)

 

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G'day Gents A newish train has taken to the rails at Edgware, made up of Lima and Hornby tankers, these have been taken apart repainted and had mainly Trains, United Dairies transfers fitted, these tankers were sometimes run up to Edgware to get them out of the way (morning peak)

Interesting. Do you know where these tankers came from (and went to)? I can't think of any United Dairies facilities in the area (although Express had a big plant at Cricklewood).
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G'day Gents

 

There was a largish United Dairy at Finchley Central, previously called 'Manor Farm Dairy' there milk was a local concern, after United took over most of there milk came from the Stafford area travelling over the GN lines via Derby-Colwick and ECML, there was another Dairy/bottling plant at Finsbury Park over by Platform 10, MacFishers had a cold store there, later a old Pullman coach was stored on one of the old sidings.

 

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Found this topic from your link on the Peterborough North thread and I shall follow from now on. I grew up in Mill Hill East and one of my "might but probably never will" ideas is a model of Finchley Central in the early 1960s, before the goods yard was converted into the car park.

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G'Day Gents

 

Welcome to my main layout, Edgware GN, I, like most people wanted a main line layout, but as usual, space limitations dictated otherwise,, Edgware is 13'x8', and with a bit of compression I've managed to fit almost everything in.

 

Edgware, is/was a single line branch in North London, which is a pretty rare thing in it's self, and survived until1964, although it lost it's passenger service in 1939, at the outbreak of WW2, I've changed history and kept the line open to at least 1970, which allows me to run a few diesels, I've also added a branch off to London Coney, (which gives me a circle, to the fiddle yard).

 

To much talk, here's some pictures.

 

manna

Why London Colney in particular - family connection? I remember visiting the North London SME live steam track there.

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G'day Gents

 

Although my primary interest is the LNER I do have enough loco's, stock to run a BR timetable, including a Cravens 105, which would if the line had stayed open, been a common feature of the branch, it's doubtful if a Baby Deltic would have made the trip to Edgware, even with a coal train, but I suppose anything can happen when rule one is applied.

 

I will endeavour to picture some of the classes that 'may' have reached Edgware, if it had closed a lot later and kept it's passenger service until (at least) 1970, although if it had kept it's passenger service until that date, we may still have that service today.

 

Also I would like to wish everybody a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

 

Piccy time.

 

manna

I've seen pictures somewhere of a DMU on a railtour round the Northern Heights branches. Google would probably find them.

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In reply to St Enodoc.

 

I had a Great Grand Mother that lived there for a while, although I never met her, Dad used to take us for walks around the area.

 

if you look on the Six bells Junction site, there was a DMU trip to Poplar docks then around the house's taking in the Northern Heights.

 

Finchley Central, would be a good layout.

 

Here's a couple of my latest loco's. The D3 started life as a GWR County, the tender will be replaced one day, the O1 (later O3) is on a 8F chassis, not to far out.

 

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G'day Gents

 

After SA's first (?) Cyclone, 100 + kph winds and plenty of rain (floods all over the place) and having no power for a total of 34.5 hours out of 48 hours (plus no internet) I can finally bring you the latest happenings at Edgware.

 

First, I've lettered and numbered, 10 brake vans, which is about five more than I thought I had.

 The D3 is now running through to Edgware, and is surprisingly strong 6/7 coaches and 14 wagons are not a problem at all.

Deltic is also running, she'll pull 10 coaches.

My brass C12, has been fitted with a new can motor and a set of Romford's, took a while to get the motor set up on a homemade motor retainer, paint and a number, 4503, which was the shed shunter at Park sidings (coach sheds) I've read somewhere that it did get up to Edgware, probably coach set change overs.

 

Here's some pictures.

 

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G'day Gents

 

Not a true model railway update, but a update never the less, for a few years now I've been thinking about making Edgware bigger, there's a small (8x8) shed behind the railway shed, now at last I've bitten the bullet and started to extend Edgware, the old shed was emptied of all the odd bits that had been stored in there, a visit to the hardware shop, cost $500 for materials, (still not finish, in that department) and new floor was scratchbuilt, and the end wall of the railway shed was taken down and rebuilt 8' further back, new roofing tin will replace the old roof today, when finished, Edgware will be extended to include Mill Hill (the Hale station), recovered from the Mill Hill 'winter snow layout)

 

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G'day Gents

 

Not a true model railway update, but a update never the less, for a few years now I've been thinking about making Edgware bigger, there's a small (8x8) shed behind the railway shed, now at last I've bitten the bullet and started to extend Edgware, the old shed was emptied of all the odd bits that had been stored in there, a visit to the hardware shop, cost $500 for materials, (still not finish, in that department) and new floor was scratchbuilt, and the end wall of the railway shed was taken down and rebuilt 8' further back, new roofing tin will replace the old roof today, when finished, Edgware will be extended to include Mill Hill (the Hale station), recovered from the Mill Hill 'winter snow layout)

 

manna

Good idea! Now all you need to do is go multi-level and we can get MHE and Finchley Central in as well. :jester:

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Hi Manna,

This is an interesting project, it's nice to see something different to the usual run of the mill layout set in BR steam days! Give me one of the big four anyday and LNER especially! (said as a former Derby [GN] man!).

I'm very impressed with your kit-bashes - proper job!

Cheers,

John.

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G'day Gents

 

A couple of weeks have gone by and building work has almost finished, walls have been painted, carpet goes down in a couple of minutes.

the three arch bridge has been moved into it's new position, that will be joined up to the 'snow' bridge, a small goods yard (two roads) will then join up to Mill Hill 'the Hale' station, on the left wall.

 

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