RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2018 Not too sure about the alien space craft with the long legs in the 6th and 7th photos though ? ) G I am sure Mr Clifford will be pleased to advise you of your rights in this matter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted April 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Last weekend John, Phil and I took Padstow, the latest and final section of the North Cornwall system to the Helston show. Jerry Jerry, Thanks for posting the photos of Padstow. I'm intrigued by the supporting leg system, which appears extremely light! Is it rigid, and do I detect some sort of tensioning wires in its construction? Regards, David Edited April 24, 2018 by Kylestrome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted April 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2018 That is looking fantastic. Shame that your attendance was not advertised at the show, I would have attended just to have seen this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted April 24, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2018 A promising start Jerry and with a squint I can almost see the finished article. There's always something about introducing a bridge that appeals to me, especially seeing the locos passing over the one above. I do like the Prarie ( but then I would wouldn't I ! ). Not too sure about the alien space craft with the long legs in the 6th and 7th photos though ? ) G Its a very rough mock up of the water tower which is very tall and spindly. This area has been severely compressed so it was a case of making some rough models to see what would look right in the available space. Jerry, Thanks for posting the photos of Padstow. I'm intrigued by the supporting leg system, which appears extremely light! Is it rigid, and do I detect some sort of tensioning wires in its construction? Regards, David The legs are extremely strong and rigid and take all of about 20 seconds to erect! there are indeed tensioning wires. The whole thing is hinged in the middle and unfolds like an upside down truss girder bridge. Wadebridge has a similar set of legs, I will photograph them properly next time we put a section of the layout up. That is looking fantastic. Shame that your attendance was not advertised at the show, I would have attended just to have seen this. we were down as a demo so the club left it to us what we brought. Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) Jerry beat me to it in posting photos of 'Padstow' at the Helston show last weekend! Sure, it has been a while since we last posted photos of John's 'North Cornwall Line in 2mm Scale', mainly because it has not been to any shows recently - apart from John showing the 'St Blazey Roundhouse' portion at the Cambourne show last November. Anyway, here is my selection of photos from a super weekend together. Needless to say, the layout - on its very first outing - ran faultlessly. Just the scenery now to complete... The real Padstow station from a similar angle, albeit in pre-grouping days. John's target period is about 1937-47... Jerry snapping away... This eventually will be quite a modelled landscape spectacle as seen above: trains will depart Padstow station, slink through the curved station throat, rumble through the Iron Bridge, then re-appear on the other side of Little Petherick Creek / Camel Estuary passing in the other direction, before finally disappearing towards Wadebridge. Between the front and the back of this portion of the layout you will be looking across open water. Quite magnificent! And now, to help orientate yourself, here is a out-take from John's 'masterplan' for the Padstow end of the layout... John proposes a plain 'sky' view-blocker to obscure direct views towards the end of Wadebridge Town Quay (here, opposite Padstow). But most of the rest of the rear of this scene will have a conventional back drop - trains simply emerging through a gap between the two. As it transpires, the short 12" baseboard extension at the buffer-stop end of Padstow shown on the plan may now not get added. And the whole thing together (just to remind you)... Where John is sitting may be the best position from which to operate this end of the layout, as apart from being out of the way and getting the best views (!), it's also a good place to chat to visitors and explain things to them. Quite a cushy spot! Above and below: The iconic 'Iron Bridge' over Little Petherick Creek. John has caught the character of this location down to a "T". This is the real Iron Bridge for comparison... Jerry, still snapping away (on right)... This is what John is attempting to depict: Padstow station and its environs, seen here in July 1930 from roughly the same angle but higher orientation... And finally... Comparing photos: Edna and John Greedwood with Jerry and Kim Clifford following a photo shoot. Obviously, I'm on the other side of the layout still taking photos. And that was it - a lovely sunny weekend away with the best of friends. And the layout weren't 'arf bad too! Thanks John for inviting me. A DATE FOR YOUR DIARY: If you want to see the whole of John Greenwood's 'Bodmin & Wenford/North Cornwall Railway' (yes, ALL of it, as on the masterplan - that's Bodmin North-Wadebridge-Padstow, plus the Wenford Bridge Branch), make a note of these dates: Railwells, 11-12th August 2018 http://railwells.com/railway-show/railwells-show-2018/. Railwells 2018 is shaping up to be the 2mm event of the year NOT to be missed! See you there. Edited August 4, 2018 by Phil Copleston 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 This is one truly awesome project in its scale of prototype coverage. May I ask how large an area the whole thing will take up in its final form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted April 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2018 A DATE FOR YOUR DIARY: If you want to see the whole of John Greenwood's 'Bodmin & Wenford/North Cornwall Railway' (yes, ALL of it, as on the masterplan - that's Bodmin North-Wadebridge-Padstow, plus the Wenford Bridge Branch), make a note of these dates: Railwells, 11-12th August 2018 http://railwells.com/railway-show/railwells-show-2018/. Railwells 2018 is shaping up to be the 2mm event of the year NOT to be missed! See you there. Hmm, I'll be in Sussex for my daughter's wedding on the 11th. Will I be in any fit state to drive over to Wells on the Sunday? We shall see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I always applaud any display of this marvelous 2 mm depiction of Wadebridge, Wenford and Padstow as they are my ideals of what I would achieve in a 4mm version if I had the space, time and money. I have modeled a fragment and found the research and involvement in trying to re-create even the fragment have been a fascinating enterprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 ...if I had the space, time and money. Indeed. "Space time and money" are often the bug-bear that seemingly frustrates us in achieving our goals. But for John Greenwood, as I see it, he has overcome these perceived obstacles by a) adopting a smaller scale best suited to accommodate his ambitions in the space available (a loft), b) committing to a long-term modelling project (decades) so that time is less critical (he is also now retired, but not at the start), and c) he makes much of it himself (scratchbuilding) which dramatically keeps down costs while up-ing the satisfaction levels. There are good lessons there for us lesser mortals! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted April 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2018 Indeed. "Space time and money" are often the bug-bear that seemingly frustrates us in achieving our goals. But for John Greenwood, as I see it, he has overcome these perceived obstacles by a) adopting a smaller scale best suited to accommodate his ambitions in the space available (a loft), b) committing to a long-term modelling project (decades) so that time is less critical (he is also now retired, but not at the start), and c) he makes much of it himself (scratchbuilding) which dramatically keeps down costs while up-ing the satisfaction levels. There are good lessons there for us lesser mortals! I would agree with you that that the focus on a long term goal has been a major factor. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted April 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2018 A DATE FOR YOUR DIARY: If you want to see the whole of John Greenwood's 'Bodmin & Wenford/North Cornwall Railway' (yes, ALL of it, as on the masterplan - that's Bodmin North-Wadebridge-Padstow, plus the Wenford Bridge Branch), make a note of these dates: Railwells, 11-12th August 2018 http://railwells.com/railway-show/railwells-show-2018/. Railwells 2018 is shaping up to be the 2mm event of the year NOT to be missed! See you there. A date etched into the diary! Not missing the chance to see the whole layout! Tom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted April 26, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2018 A date etched into the diary! Not missing the chance to see the whole layout! Tom. See it, as one of the regular Wadebridge operators you'll be on driving duty!! Jerry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) A date etched into the diary! Not missing the chance to see the whole layout! Tom. Yes Tom, as one of the regular 'Wadebridge' team you get to play with all of it over that weekend too. Look forward to catching up with you there. Should be a truly memorable event in the hobby (not just for 2mm aficionados) - can't wait! Edited April 26, 2018 by Phil Copleston 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted July 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2018 A bump to remind people that this will be at RailWells (sadly I can’t make it). Also picking up on this: Indeed. "Space time and money" are often the bug-bear that seemingly frustrates us in achieving our goals. But for John Greenwood, as I see it, he has overcome these perceived obstacles by a) adopting a smaller scale best suited to accommodate his ambitions in the space available (a loft), b) committing to a long-term modelling project (decades) so that time is less critical (he is also now retired, but not at the start), and c) he makes much of it himself (scratchbuilding) which dramatically keeps down costs while up-ing the satisfaction levels. There are good lessons there for us lesser mortals! I would agree with you that that the focus on a long term goal has been a major factor. Don Although he didn’t adopt a smaller scale, the long-term commitment and doing it yourself are also core attributes of Trevor Nunn’s success with East Lynn, etc, and of course, the late Rev. Peter Denny with Buckingham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Copleston Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) A Special Announcement: RAILWELLS Sat 11 / Sun 12 August 2018 John Greenwood's 2mm finescale Magnum Opus The North Cornwall Railway - including the Bodmin & Wadebridge Railway Padstow - Wadebridge - Boscarne Junction - Bodmin North - St Blazey Roundhouse - and the entire Wenford Branch, including Wenford Goods Depot with working gantry crane and road vehicles. Seven layouts in one - a true model railway system. Yes - ALL of it will be exhibited at the Wells Show, Somerset. This may only happen once, so clearly an opportunity NOT to be missed! While the whole thing will be fully operational during the show, portions of it will be a 'work in progress' scenically - in particular, Padstow and parts of the Wenford Branch. Bodmin North is slightly out of public view, stuck behind the branch, and is still just track on baseboards, so will function as an extra fiddleyard and stock storage area. (This will eventually be another stand-alone portion of the overall layout.) Even so, you will be able to witness a WHOLE model railway SYSTEM in operation - quite a rare experience these days. There will be between 6 to 8 operators kept busy at any one time to ensure the trains will be running on the main and the branch. Railwells this year will obviously be a bit of a 2-mil extravaganza - nay, a veritable 2-mil-fest! Three additional 2mm finescale layouts will also be at the show (2mm is the guest scale); these are: 2mm 'Bordesley North' – Jim Alwood Minium space layout with high level station and lower level cement terminal 2mm 'Callaton' – Mick Simpson Situated north of Newcastle in the 1970s 2mm 'Mini-MSW (The Woodhead Line)' – Alan Whitehouse The first showing of Alan’s revamped DC overhead electric Woodhead inspired layout And of course, including a host of other splendid layouts in P4 and other scales, including the exquisite ‘Ashburton’ – John Birkett-Smith. This GWR layout is actually built to 2mm scale, albeit with N gauge wheels and track. Further details in the current issue of MRJ (264) and on the Railwells 2018 website: http://railwells.com/railway-show/railwells-show-2018 Don't miss this rather special model railway event. We can imagine that many 2mm scale aficionados and others will be travelling some distance to see this exceptional layout system. John's layout will occupy most of the ground floor entrance foyer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, that's the announcement over. As part of our show prep., a couple of weeks ago Jerry Clifford and I met up at John's house to help John test-assemble the layout outside - the first time the whole thing had been put together outside of John's loft, its usual abode. Fortunately, it was gloriously sunny (nay, blisteringly hot!) all day and we could errect it in front of his garage (and the neighbours too, with permission) without interuption. Actually, it wasn't the 'layout' we were testing (we know it all works), but instead putting up the ingenious legging and support system and to see if the extended lighting rigs would fit round three sides of the whole layout. They did - but only after a little 'adjustment' did they go together satisfactorily. All we then had to do was work out which bits will be transported in John's, Jerry's or my cars to shift it all up to Wells before the show. We reckon it will all fit in - but only just! Here are some snaps from that sunny afternoon of us test-assembling mainly the legs and lighting units from John's impressively large 2mm layout (compare with the plan above): And... ...Ta-daa! And finally, here's a shot of me actually doing some modelling (well, painting the scenery undercoat on the Wenford Branch), while John cuts out a slice from the baseboard edge to accommodate part of the Camel River (which he's forgotten to allow for). We'll get there in the end! Anyway, that's it. Fingers crossed everything will work and we'll all have a splendid time. Come and say "hello" - we hope to see you at Railwells! Edited August 3, 2018 by Phil Copleston 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3, 2018 Don't miss this rather special model railway event. We expect that many 2mm scale aficionados and others will be travelling some distance to see this exceptional layout system. John's layout will occupy most of the ground floor entrance foyer. We look forward to entertaining and seeing you there! I hope to be there on the Sunday, if I can get up early enough after my daughter's wedding in Sussex the day before. If I do make it, I'll come and say hello. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Ohhhh! Decisions decisions. Do I go 25 miles to an area group meeting in Edinburgh, or 450+ miles to Wells? :-/ All the best for the show, guys. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Copleston Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Ohhhh! Decisions decisions. Do I go 25 miles to an area group meeting in Edinburgh, or 450+ miles to Wells? :-/ All the best for the show, guys. Jim The decision is obvious, Jim... your hand-held Wadebridge controller awaits you! Edited August 4, 2018 by Phil Copleston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigelcliffe Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Don't travel with Jim, he'd take the Cambridge to Norwich via Keswick train...... Its definitely a lot under 400 miles from the Scottish Borders to Wells. 360-odd in my case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham R Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Ohhhh! Decisions decisions. Do I go 25 miles to an area group meeting in Edinburgh, or 450+ miles to Wells? :-/ All the best for the show, guys. Jim You can do both Jim ... area meeting for the faithful on Saturday, Wells show on Sunday. You retired lads have all that free time to fill up :-; Graham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Don't travel with Jim, he'd take the Cambridge to Norwich via Keswick train...... Its definitely a lot under 400 miles from the Scottish Borders to Wells. 360-odd in my case. But we're c70 miles from the border. Jim ( currently in Birmingham) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) You can do both Jim ... area meeting for the faithful on Saturday, Wells show on Sunday. You retired lads have all that free time to fill up :-; Graham Aye, right! When you're retired and have grandchildren you have no time to yourself! Jim Edited August 4, 2018 by Caley Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kylestrome Posted August 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2018 Retired people often wonder how they ever found enough time to work. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBS Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Phil, John and Jerry, Coming soon to a harbour near you : Look forward to being in North Cornwall this weekend at Wells. Best wishes, John 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted August 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2018 But we're c70 miles from the border. Jim ( currently in Birmingham) One end of the border is roughly 70 miles further from Wells than the other end, so if you choose the correct end, you could still be 70 miles closer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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