D869 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd back up Mark's comments. I didn't find anything about the locos jarred. To me John's locos look great and (most importantly) run really well although my personal favourite is the spam can in Bulleid livery. I think that the question is whether you're willing to let John transport you to North Cornwall in the days before Nationalisation. I certainly am and I thoroughly enjoyed my unexpected spell operating Wadebridge on the Saturday at Railex. Regarding DCC, Railex was also my first experience of running a DCC layout. I think it does the job very well although it's not the answer to everything. I was very impressed by the rarity of stalling, particularly given that (as far as I could see) neither track nor loco wheels were cleaned during the course of the day. I did have one strange DCC specific problem though - a loco that was heading for the buffers refused to slow down when I turned the knob back to zero and continued pushing away at the buffer stops until I hit the 'stop' button and ground everything to a halt. The handling of short circuits is another well known challenge. John has sectioned the feeds and has car headlamp bulbs wired in series. These are effective in stopping the whole system from tripping out for some of those inevitable operator errors (e.g. running against wrongly set points) but not every time - we still had the whole system trip on a few occasions... at least some of them my fault. Regards, Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I agree that the lining looks very good. I have also had the "fun" of lining a steam loco in N gauge and it is not easy to get it looking right. The thing to remember is that in many cases, the lines we are trying to represent were only half or a quarter of an inch thick on the real thing. Even if you could reproduce that sort of lining at 1:148 scale, it would be practically invisible to the eye and the loco would look wrong. Overscale lining is unavoidable in very small scales but I have to say that the examples on this thread are some of the best I have seen, certainly better than my own efforts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Unconnected with the quality of the modelling, which is at the usual exquisite 2mmFS level, one small detail spoils the operation on the video. It is my belief that each train in both directions would slow to a crawl passing the signalbox to acquire or relinquish the token for whichever single line it is using. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Unconnected with the quality of the modelling, which is at the usual exquisite 2mmFS level, one small detail spoils the operation on the video. It is my belief that each train in both directions would slow to a crawl passing the signalbox to acquire or relinquish the token for whichever single line it is using. This is true and we will try to enforce it next time out. The one clanger which nobody has spotted is that the 02 on the Bodmin train is coming in off the North Cornwall line. Oh well, amongst the other myriad of jobs that need doing we hope to have a basic sequence in place for its next outing which is York, Easter 2015. Jerry 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D869 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is true and we will try to enforce it next time out. The one clanger which nobody has spotted is that the 02 on the Bodmin train is coming in off the North Cornwall line. Oh well, amongst the other myriad of jobs that need doing we hope to have a basic sequence in place for its next outing which is York, Easter 2015. Jerry Possibly a feature of the track plan behind the scenes? One thing that I couldn't figure out was a good way to get a train that had departed to Bodmin and gone anticlockwise around the fiddle yard to reappear from Bodmin on its next working. My answer was to propel it back over the hidden crossover so that it could reappear in the right place, but maybe there's a better answer that I didn't figure out? Regards, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted June 3, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2014 Possibly a feature of the track plan behind the scenes? One thing that I couldn't figure out was a good way to get a train that had departed to Bodmin and gone anticlockwise around the fiddle yard to reappear from Bodmin on its next working. My answer was to propel it back over the hidden crossover so that it could reappear in the right place, but maybe there's a better answer that I didn't figure out? Regards, Andy You need to physically run it round which, in the heat of battle didn't always happen. The problem is that in John's loft the train simply runs through to Bodmin as it should. The exhibited bit is only part of the layout - see the full track plan Phil posted a few pages back. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Living in Belgium, I haven't seen the layout in the flesh, at least, not at all recently (although I had seen, and admired, Wenfordbrridge on a number of occasions), and I do realise that photography "enhances" the white lining. In theory, at least, the "white" lining on the prototype was only 0.25 inches wide, or 0.02mm in 2mm scale (if I have my arithmetic right), and should "disappear". In practice, it unquestionably punched above its weight on the prototype even without any photographic process intervening and can't, therefore, be ignored on a model. Even in 4mm scale it can't be done to scale width (other than using computer-produced transfers) and I was therefore trying to make the point that if the model lining was straw instead of white - as it does seem to have been on the prototype in use - then it would still be visible but would stand out just a little less. I don't have any locos of my own in either 2mm or 4mm scale to demonstrate but I have, hopefully, attached a photograph of a 4mm scale model of an IoW O2 tank which was painted by Alan Brackenborough well over 40 years ago and which I believe captures the effect quite well. I neither built nor painted the loco, although I did build the turntable on which it is standing. Furthermore, just in case anyone thinks that I have no experience of fine-line painting, I have also attached a cruel blow-up of the poster boards on the same layout - I painted both the board headers and all the posters by hand c1970 simply because nothing suitable was then available from the trade and b/w photocopiers had only just started to appear let alone colour ones. I have to admit, sadly, that I couldn't do anything like it today. David Woodcock 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill-lobb Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 ... its next outing which is York, Easter 2015. Jerry Excellent. Looking forward to it already Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted June 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Lining is indeed a problem in any scale let alone 2mm. Alan Brackenborough is a real master and will carefully choose his colours. He often uses a yellow rather than gold because it looks more correct. He also prefers to work in 7mm scale most of the time. Another well known modeller Martin Brent would add a bit of body colour to the varnish to tone down the lining. I attach two pictures of Colbourne taken at Havenstreet It seems to me that in the first photo the lining appears thicker than in the close up I admit these are post preservation photos. Don edit The red line has also disappeared on the first photo Edited June 5, 2014 by Donw 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 In the first photo I can see the red line on my screen. I had to check for it because it's feint and I'm pretty sure I'd be agreeing with you if it wasn't looking at a QHD+ display. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted June 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2014 In the first photo I can see the red line on my screen. I had to check for it because it's feint and I'm pretty sure I'd be agreeing with you if it wasn't looking at a QHD+ display. You would probably need magnifying glasses to see a 2mm model the same size Rich! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Copleston Posted July 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Yep, I wuz there! And I enjoyed every minute on both days (as you can see), although by late Sunday afternoon I was flagging a bit. I have a large stock of photos of 'Wadebridge' from the Helston show to post here over the next few days. A taste-wetter for Railex. So watch this space... Hi folks, Ummm... was it really two months since I promised to post some photos of 'Wadebridge' at the Helston show on 26-27 April 2014? Ooops! Well, here they are, better late than never... Jerry, busily snapping away (the results are to be seen elsewhere on this thread), as John looks on, while I was photographing the pair of them! The two T9s meet, oh so exquisitely scratchbuilt by John Greenwood. T9 No.119 in post-war malachite green livery with 'sunshine' lettering. SR 'West Country' class locomotive 21C107 is appropriately 'Wadebridge' (or will be once the plates are attached), later British Railways No.34007, seen here with the Padstow portion of the ACE. The main body shell is Farish but heavily reworked, with many new parts and a scratchbuilt tender, cab and chassis. I think she looks rather spiffing in her as-built form and in post-war malachite green livery. Guineaport Cottages, Wadebridge. Photographs of the real buildings were utilised to produce coloured card 'kits'. Wadebridge east signal box, looking back towards the station. You can almost hear the bells... The three Beattie 'ladies' on shed. The Medieval bridge over the River Camel, which carries Molesworth Street over the estuary, and that gives rise to the name of the town. Prior to the bridge's construction in the 15th century, the settlement was known simply as Wade, a dangerous fording point across the river. The view down Molesworth Street, towards the level crossing. Wadebridge south quay, just to the west of the Medieval bridge. Warehouses on south quay, their character perfectly captured in model form. The view up Molesworth Street from the level crossing, looking towards the start of the Medieval bridge over the Camel. T9 No.710 passes over the Molesworth Street crossing with an eastbound train. Wadebridge west signal box, protecting the level crossing of Molesworth Street. There we are, I hope it was worth the wait! Enjoy. Edited July 18, 2014 by Phil Copleston 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted July 16, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Blimey, was that really back in April - where has the year gone! Thanks for posting Phil. Looking forward to seeing you and Maurice at Larkrail this weekend with St.Juliot -see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87613-larkrail-2014/ John (complete with load shirt!) will be helping me out with Highbury. Jerry Edited to correct my shocking spelling Edited July 17, 2014 by queensquare 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSLR Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 10a. 20140426_153413.jpg Well doesn't take too much working out who's sitting in the background of that one... Good show I thought (at least in the 'Cornish' proper railways room), see if I got any pictures from that show. Cheerful chaps packing away their trains: 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas G Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Lovely stuff. This layout is going to be a classic once finished! Douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted July 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 The vinyls for the fascia, which should have arrived in time for the Aylesbury outing but didn't, have finally been applied. Jerry 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) The vinyls for the fascia, which should have arrived in time for the Aylesbury outing but didn't, have finally vinylly been applied. IMG_1526a.jpg Jerry There, I fixed it for you. Edited July 17, 2014 by 2mmMark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-missy- Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The vinyls for the fascia, which should have arrived in time for the Aylesbury outing but didn't, have finally been applied. IMG_1526a.jpg Jerry Its nice to see the name in that photograg is spelt correctly. Julia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernboy Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Absolutely enchanting - but like the best of films - such simple delight is only created through high production values and a director's integrity. For me very impressive. I do love this following picture. It really is a snapshot of a time-and-place from some long-forgotten collective memory. Edited July 17, 2014 by Southernboy 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John lewsey Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The buildings are particularly nice aren't they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 Hi there, Thanks for posting the photographs - some really lovely architectural modelling and nice to see the scenic work "in progress" too. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted July 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lovely set of photos Phil. The buildings are realy impressive. I don't know whether the buildings are exact copies or have just captured the style but that really does look like Wadebridge. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted November 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2014 John, Jerry, smashing layout. Not sure how I've missed this thread before now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted November 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2014 John, Jerry, smashing layout. Not sure how I've missed this thread before now... And with a BWT or two. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted November 18, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) John, Jerry, smashing layout. Not sure how I've missed this thread before now... You've obviously not been paying attention. Do try to keep up that man......... Jerry Edited November 18, 2014 by queensquare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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