LMS2968 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Bloody pigeons! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, LMS2968 said: Bloody pigeons! Don't you mean seagulls? That's Hull. Edited January 23, 2020 by The Stationmaster 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Don't you mean seagulls? That's Hull. The technical term is shitehawk 3 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2020 21 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Don't you mean seagulls? That's Hull. That's a bit of a long way even for the most enthusiastic of Saltley men. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Those of you modelling the current scene will have to paint the track VERY carefully now, witness the PW at Navigation Road Greater Manchester; see below 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, paulbb said: Those of you modelling the current scene will have to paint the track VERY carefully now, witness the PW at Navigation Road Greater Manchester; see below or these G-clamps on the left hand rail and blue clips, starts from 3:30 in. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post The Stationmaster Posted January 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 24/01/2020 at 14:10, TheSignalEngineer said: That's a bit of a long way even for the most enthusiastic of Saltley men. If Didcot men could get to Harwich and - reputedly - Sheffield I suspect Hull would be an easy one for the seagull bunch. There's a typical Saltley tale of a problem north of Oxford which left an empty mgr in the lurch for its return working from Didcot. The conversation between Control and the Driver went something like this. 'Looks like you'll be stuck for a good while Driver, are going to bail out' 'No worries, can you get us to Acton please, there's a couple of blokes road learning with me today and between us we can get back to Brum via Acton and Willesden and down the West Coast mainline if you can get us up to Acton and Acton Wells' 'We'll have to ask the LM if they can accept you that way?' 'Don't worry about that, they won't have much choice once we get to Acton Wells' And off they went. The Didcot man who got to Harwich was even more amusing. It was on a long forgotten regular working and one night the train arrived in the eastern part of London where a Stratford man was supposed to relieve the Didcot man. When his reiief didn't appear the Didcot Driver rang Liverpool St Control to report the fact and was told the booked man had gone sick and there was nobody who knew the job. Being quick of thought the Didcot Driver enquired if they had anybody who knew the road and was told they did but he didn't know the traction at which point the Didcot man volunteered to work through with the other man Conducting him - and that was what happened. The following night the train again sat around waiting relief and the Didcot man duly rang Liverpool St Control - to be told there was no one available at all. So he quickly explained that having learnt the road the previous night (!!) he had got back to Didcot and added it to his Route Card so if there was nobody available he was prepared take the train on his own. Sigh of relief in Control and off he went on his own. - just the sort of thing Didcot men would do in those days when they were fighting to keep the depot going. Come 1990 and as we were gradually specialising/sectorising work at WR depots we proposed to take engineering train work out of Reading and move it to Didcot. At the consultation meeting the Reading reps asked how we would be able to do that because Didcot men didn't know the Berks & Hants. Back came the reply from the Didcot reps 'oh yes we do' which brought some very unsavoury comments from the Reading reps about not only the management but the underhand tricks of their colleagues at Didcot who were obviously in cahoots with the management. 14 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 Did you run out of pressfix letters half way through your early 1950s loco detailing attempt? Fear not, there is always a prototype example.... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2020 Eastern modellers have been crying out for a RTR J6 for ages. If anyone does take the plunge, let's hope they do the 3 tender version. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchinuk Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 25/01/2020 at 12:51, paulbb said: Those of you modelling the current scene will have to paint the track VERY carefully now, witness the PW at Navigation Road Greater Manchester; see below I wouldn't bother, if they are copper (or people think they are copper) they will be gone in a few weeks.. jh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mel_H Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Got a NSE 47 and no coaches for it? Not what the Marketing people envisaged! The rather incongruous sight of NSE-liveried 47583 County of Hertfordshire hauling scrap wagons through Derby on 5th February 1988. 47583 - Derby by Syd Young, on Flickr Edited January 30, 2020 by Mel_H 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Mel_H said: Got a NSE 47 and no coaches for it? Not what the Marketing people envisaged! The rather incongruous sight of NSE-liveried 47583 County of Hertfordshire hauling scrap wagons through Derby on 5th February 1988. 47583 - Derby by Syd Young, on Flickr Always good to see. A passenger sector loco on a freight and there might be a freight sector loco on a passenger train somewhere else. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Quote Not what the Marketing people envisaged! The rather incongruous sight of NSE-liveried 47583 County of Hertfordshire hauling scrap wagons through Derby on 5th February 1988. Reminds me of a more contemporary one I saw last week on the Airedale line at Bingley, Belmond 'Royal Scotsman' 66 on a quarry train of graffiti-covered loaded stone opens... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 47 minutes ago, brushman47544 said: Always good to see. A passenger sector loco on a freight and there might be a freight sector loco on a passenger train somewhere else. So long as it's not in the 'heating season' ................... hopefully ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2020 15 hours ago, Mel_H said: Got a NSE 47 and no coaches for it? Not what the Marketing people envisaged! The rather incongruous sight of NSE-liveried 47583 County of Hertfordshire hauling scrap wagons through Derby on 5th February 1988. 47583 - Derby by Syd Young, on Flickr NSE livery; how to make respectable trains look like street market trainers. A victory of lack of style over substance. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Wickham Green said: So long as it's not in the 'heating season' ................... hopefully ! By that time it was take what you can get, whenever you can get it. No heat was key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 When you've just finished super-detailing your EE Type 4, and you realise that you've put one horn grille on the wrong way around; just number it D224! [source: https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrrm3994.htm] 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 30/01/2020 at 22:14, Mel_H said: Got a NSE 47 and no coaches for it? Not what the Marketing people envisaged! The rather incongruous sight of NSE-liveried 47583 County of Hertfordshire hauling scrap wagons through Derby on 5th February 1988. 47583 - Derby by Syd Young, on Flickr Being pedantic, they are engineers spoil wagons, probably being moved ready for a weekend possesion, possibly even back into NSE territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 25/01/2020 at 12:51, paulbb said: Those of you modelling the current scene will have to paint the track VERY carefully now, witness the PW at Navigation Road Greater Manchester; see below Paint the track carefully, yes - but just tip the ballast out all over the place.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 30/01/2020 at 13:46, Metr0Land said: Eastern modellers have been crying out for a RTR J6 for ages. If anyone does take the plunge, let's hope they do the 3 tender version. How would you couple two extra tenders in a goods train? Surely the loco end is just a draw bar and water & brake pipe connections? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Mel_H said: When you've just finished super-detailing your EE Type 4, and you realise that you've put one horn grille on the wrong way around; just number it D224! [source: https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrrm3994.htm] That’s one of Bill Wright’s excellent shots. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted February 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, melmerby said: How would you couple two extra tenders in a goods train? Surely the loco end is just a draw bar and water & brake pipe connections? Given where the photo is taken (hard water area) it wouldn't surprise me if the tenders are sludge tenders used in association with loco water treatment. These generally had buffing gear etc added at the 'loco' end. See for example this flickr link:https://www.flickr.com/photos/trains-travel/35299869076 However, there may be another explanation. Simon Edited February 1, 2020 by 65179 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 You could generally tell a sludge tender as a seemingly high proportion of said sludge tended to be carried on its outer faces rather than in the tank. However, another Railway, the L&YR, often suffered water shortages at one of its outposts, Blackpool, and whole trains of detached tenders full of water would make their way there from Preston. Perhaps the ER had a similar shortage? Alternatively, the second tender appears very clean (as does the loco) so possibly ex-works on its way to a shed for a tender swop. The state of the third tender doesn't really add credence to this theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted February 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, LMS2968 said: You could generally tell a sludge tender as a seemingly high proportion of said sludge tended to be carried on its outer faces rather than in the tank. However, another Railway, the L&YR, often suffered water shortages at one of its outposts, Blackpool, and whole trains of detached tenders full of water would make their way there from Preston. Perhaps the ER had a similar shortage? Alternatively, the second tender appears very clean (as does the loco) so possibly ex-works on its way to a shed for a tender swop. The state of the third tender doesn't really add credence to this theory. The loco looks ex-works or not long out of the works. The 2nd tender is lettered British Railways (The loco tender has the bicycling lion) and the third is either blank or so filthy it appears so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, melmerby said: How would you couple two extra tenders in a goods train? Surely the loco end is just a draw bar and water & brake pipe connections? They often had the bolt-holes drilled for buffing gear; I remember a number of tender underframes at our local steelworks had some wnere buffers had replaced the loco- tender drawgear. As for coupling within a train, loco-end to loco-end would work... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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