montyburns56 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Isn't there a thread about how steam locos never really topped and tailed trains? 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 At first glance you might not realise exactly what's going on here... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: At first glance you might not realise exactly what's going on here... Had the standard prairie failed, or being taken for scrap? Looks like the pannier is pushing it, 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, john new said: Had the standard prairie failed, or being taken for scrap? Looks like the pannier is pushing it, Yes, according to the caption it says that the Standard 2-6-2T has failed and the direction of smoke and the direction that the crew is looking at suggests that it is actually being pushed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Kyle Of Lochalsh 1991 Network Scottish East? 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Kyle Of Lochalsh 1991 Network Scottish East? That's easy to explain, they had the map upside down. Gibbo. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: At first glance you might not realise exactly what's going on here... It was far from unusual to work light engines in that way with a brake between two locos. Jim Carter in the caption to one of his photos specifically mentions it, commenting that care had to be taken to avoid pulling the van apart! I don't remember doing it with diesels in my time, but I have other photos in the SMF Archive showing it being done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Maybe the scots were just showing the passengers how bad things could get if they did not get independence those ex not work south east coaches were in a bad way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Isn't there a thread about how steam locos never really topped and tailed trains? That reminds me of the tug of war events we used to have at traction engine rallies 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2020 On 08/05/2020 at 12:50, Owd Bob said: Just for a laugh, my 12 year old Philips lekky razor, it could almost be a cl.802 & TPE livery prototype. It'll shave minutes off your point to point timings... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, montyburns56 said: At first glance you might not realise exactly what's going on here... Where is this? Ah, just read the screed on Flickr, Oswestry! Edited May 10, 2020 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, rab said: That reminds me of the tug of war events we used to have at traction engine rallies Remind's me of GJC's comment to a GW shareholder at an AGM who'd asked why his locomotives cost twice as much as Mr Bowen-Cooke's at Crewe. 'Because one of my ******rs will pull two of his ******rs backwards'! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Remind's me of GJC's comment to a GW shareholder at an AGM who'd asked why his locomotives cost twice as much as Mr Bowen-Cooke's at Crewe. 'Because one of my ******rs will pull two of his ******rs backwards'! Which reminds me of William Shakespeare's comment, "You can fool some of the people all of the time . . ." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) That’s fightin talk, that is! ‘Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war’. I thought the ‘some of the people’ quote was Winston Churchill; definitely sounds better in his bulldog growl than Stratford Bill’s Brummie whine... ’Croi ‘avuck, an’ lit sleep the digs of wowah’; nah, don’t cut it, mate. Edited May 10, 2020 by The Johnster 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Didn't get your masking tape on tightly enough before spraying and got paint bleed? Never mind, here's your prototype: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/mkt/mkt180abp.jpg Edited May 11, 2020 by pH 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 17 hours ago, LMS2968 said: ........... care had to be taken to avoid pulling the van apart! I don't remember doing it with diesels in my time, but I have other photos in the SMF Archive showing it being done. C'mon then - if you've got pictures of brake vans being pulled apart, I'm sure we'd all love to see them ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: C'mon then - if you've got pictures of brake vans being pulled apart, I'm sure we'd all love to see them ! I didn't say it, it was Jim Carter, sadly no longer with us. As always happens in these circumstances, I'm struggling to find the book containing the photo and caption. I'm pretty certain it was taken at Tyldesley and one of the engines was a 5X. I visited Jim on several occasions and he was wonderful company with a store of anecdotes, which were not prone to exaggeration. Apart from his talent for photography he had a second: he had a very effective way of putting down enthusiasts who thought they knew better than professional railwaymen, such as himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 14 hours ago, The Johnster said: That’s fightin talk, that is! ‘Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war’. I thought the ‘some of the people’ quote was Winston Churchill; definitely sounds better in his bulldog growl than Stratford Bill’s Brummie whine... ’Croi ‘avuck, an’ lit sleep the digs of wowah’; nah, don’t cut it, mate. You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 21 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Kyle Of Lochalsh 1991 Network Scottish East? 86401, painted NSE livery ostensibly for working to Cambridge, kept turning up in Glasgow. Cheers David 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, LMS2968 said: I didn't say it, it was Jim Carter, sadly no longer with us. As always happens in these circumstances, I'm struggling to find the book containing the photo and caption. I'm pretty certain it was taken at Tyldesley and one of the engines was a 5X. I visited Jim on several occasions and he was wonderful company with a store of anecdotes, which were not prone to exaggeration. Apart from his talent for photography he had a second: he had a very effective way of putting down enthusiasts who thought they knew better than professional railwaymen, such as himself. Was it in a 'Lancashire Triangle' Pt.1 by Dennis Sweeney? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I did look there, but didn't see it. Bit busy at the moment but having a meal break, but I'll try again tonight. Browsing Jim's and Dennis's books hardly constitutes a chore! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon Much fun can be had from reciting some of the speeches in a Brummie accent, particularly the Hamlet one; 'slings an' arrers uv owtrAAAAjus forchoon'. This is, nonetheless, how they must have sounded when they were first spoken aloud by Bill himself! 'A norse, a norse, moi kingdum ferran orse'! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted May 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Much fun can be had from reciting some of the speeches in a Brummie accent, particularly the Hamlet one; 'slings an' arrers uv owtrAAAAjus forchoon'. This is, nonetheless, how they must have sounded when they were first spoken aloud by Bill himself! 'A norse, a norse, moi kingdum ferran orse'! If he had spoken Brummie, he would have failed. The audience at The Globe would not have understood him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Well you can listen for yourself and decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2020 19 hours ago, The Johnster said: That’s fightin talk, that is! ‘Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war’. I thought the ‘some of the people’ quote was Winston Churchill; definitely sounds better in his bulldog growl than Stratford Bill’s Brummie whine... ’Croi ‘avuck, an’ lit sleep the digs of wowah’; nah, don’t cut it, mate. Somebody has been watching too much Upstart Crow. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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