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19 minutes ago, Davexoc said:

 

The ballast cleaning train, some of it in this view here at Toton. When formed up, its big, yellow, and very very long....

 

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Bloomin heck! Just seen a clip on youtube, your not wrong about the length

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10 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

I don't know exactly how old this sign would be, but the station lost it's passenger service in 1964.

 

North Filton Station 1996

 

North Filton Platform (5), 1996

 

 

North Filton Platform was actually used by passenger services up until the mid eighties - 86 I think - for Rolls Royce/British Aerospace workers, and IIRC the final reason for closure was officially given as lack of lighting 

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18 hours ago, Ben B said:

Back to triangles, I know Shipley (West Yorkshire) isn't technically a depot triangle, but it has been used for turning locomotives from Haworth shed (Worth Valley Railway) in the past. Happened for example in the 70's for filming 'Yanks' with s160 'Big Jim' heading down and back under steam to turn. Doesn't happen these days given the intense traffic levels on Airedale line (and regs around preserved locos on main line) though gala visitor "Royal Scot" was turned their before heading back for Crewe last year or year before.

 

Going back to the 1950s it was used to turn the Deltic Prototype and Dynamometer Car (perhaps it's full train) during its trials over the S&C

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10 hours ago, Davexoc said:

Woodford Halse had a triangle, and if you use side by side mapping, the position of it easy still clearly visible in the soil on the satellite image....

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=52.17776&lon=-1.20567&layers=193&right=BingHyb

 

 

Spalding had a triangle in the 1950s, and it was well used for turning locos too large for the turntable there, and avoided disrupting the almost constant stream of goods trains through the station at that time. 

 

Engines would use the Welland Bridge Junction to Cuckoo Junction M&GN avoiding line, plus the spurs to/from the station. 

 

Fortunately, the signalmen at Cuckoo Junction noted the loco numbers for these movements, and I have their register. It was a mystery to begin with, as to why WD 2-8-0s and other large engines were appearing at Cuckoo Junction, but with the kind help of the members in the M&GN Circle it was all sorted. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Davexoc said:

Woodford Halse had a triangle, and if you use side by side mapping, the position of it easy still clearly visible in the soil on the satellite image....

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=52.17776&lon=-1.20567&layers=193&right=BingHyb

 

Interesting to see how completely the railway structures have disappeared! 

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9 hours ago, big jim said:


One of them passed me last week at mountsorrel, this is less than 1/2 of it in view

 

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A very impressive bit of kit and when it was on our patch something always seemed to go wrong with it - broken couplings, split hydraulic hoses, brake issues causing a few SPADs, the odd fire and gawd knows what else....! Heading north up the WCML out of Willesden was fun, once it was all put together we'd be routed down the dive under along the Willesden relief lines which took some careful handling with the 20mph speed restriction and the inevitable red signal on the approach to Sudbury Junction. With the signal off for the Down Slow it would be a long slow crawl out of the dip but once clear of the last set of points the rear driver would get the nod from the front driver over the back to back radio and give it the beans all the way to Tring. Happy days.

 

 

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Like the cars, you don't get all the 'nice to haves' with the base model. There were some good bits, like the brush for sweeping the rail and sleeper tops and the blue 'go faster' arrow on one wagon to show which way it should be pointing, but not to have some form of enclosure to protect the spent ballast conveyor operator seems remiss.  In fact the overall level of dust was appalling. I certainly wouldn't want it operating at the end of my back garden!

Fascinating piece of kit though.

Another hour of lockdown spent because there lots more videos of various bits of ingeneous rail maintenance kit just waiting to be watched. :rolleyes:

Thanks for posting

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48 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Do you remember that famous comedy sketch about class with the Two Ronnies and John Cleese....

 

1973 - '38 at Amersham..

 

The 1938 stock even looks a bit like Ronnie Corbett; it's that slightly bemused and a little taken aback expression under dark hair...

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5 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Do you remember that famous comedy sketch about class with the Two Ronnies and John Cleese....

 

1973 - '38 at Amersham..

 

Oddly that Met A (?) stock is the largest train there being just under 9' 7" wide, 4" more than the DMU and only slightly less high.

O & P stock was even wider.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Oddly that Met A (?) stock is the largest train there being just under 9' 7" wide, 4" more than the DMU and only slightly less high.

O & P stock was even wider.

 

 

 

Was the width of met stock so wide because some of the line had been broad gauge for a while? 

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43 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

Was the width of met stock so wide because some of the line had been broad gauge for a while? 

Possibly.

It opened with dual gauge in Jan 1863 from Paddington to Farringdon with Broad gauge trains operated by BG GWR stock using Metro tanks.

Standard gauge trains operated by the GNR  ran from Aug 1863 after the GWR withdrew it's BG ones due to a disagreement.

Later the GWR ran BG trains from Farringdon to Hammersmith.

Even after BG trains ceased the expanding MET must have still built to a generous width.

The flared skirt type MET stock O & P approached 9' 9" wide.

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5 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

How wide is the 'S' stock ? ........ it's certainly not restricted to former Metropolitan lines so was it 'dumbed down' to a narrower standard. 

9' 7" according to Wiki

I seem to remember that TfL said they were to be to the maximum profile allowable on the non tube lines, so presumably all non tube tunnels etc. must be to the same wide gauge.

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