PatB Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 The guard appears to be wearing hi viz, which might help pin down the date a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 All those brake vans reminded me a bit of this 37 on Ince Moss, Wigan. Early '80's 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: It's not only diesel units that get mis-matched : - Probably reformed due to accident damage. The SR (and its successors) weren't known for repainting stock to match unless it was absolutely necessary... EDIT: Checking my records, 5454 exchanged DMBSO 14555 with 14264 of unit 5480 in October 1991, reason unknown. The latter then ran with three Blue/Grey coaches and one in NSE livery until withdrawn 20 January 1992. 5454 lasted in service until 14 May 1993. Edited June 30, 2020 by talisman56 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 21 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Looks like a trip from West Blyth to Tyne Yard the crane at the front is the ADRF96405 that was the only crane suitable for use on West Blyth Staiths, the tank is probably a waste oil tank with a Grampus behind that looks like it is filled with pick up coal off the Staiths and surplus Brake Vans going for use on weekend P'Way trains out of Tyne! As for date more like 1984 as the North Tyneside loop had closed and the platforms to the right taken out of use and lifted since about 1977 when closed for conversion to Metro. Right thanks, that makes sense which means that this must be the front of that train... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) On 29/06/2020 at 20:53, montyburns56 said: I'm posting this mainly because of the number of brake vans in use, but I also noticed how one of them seems to be a ZTO brake van for departmental use, but I didn't know that this livery variant was in use in the 70s or is the photo date wrong?? Manors 1974 The flickr caption just has c074 - not 1974 - it may be just the photographers reference number. Other photos in the same gallery have "c080", "c081" and "a913" for example Edited June 30, 2020 by newbryford 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted July 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2020 The Engineers livery, or "Dutch" as it became known, first appeared around 1982. The first wagons I remember carrying it were the Turbot wagons used for spoil. They were rebodied using redundant bogie bolster E underframes, IIRC. The photo at Ince Moss reminded me of when they used to appear in the north west. In the early 80s I was a Shunter at Springs Branch. In 1983 I became a Guard at SP, we regularly had Turbot on spoil trains during weekend possessions. The loaded trains would be left at various locations such as Ince Moss and Kirkham tips. Others would be left at Edge Hill or Guide Bridge, to be to the tip sites during the week when room was available. Empty wagons would return ready for the following weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 12 hours ago, talisman56 said: EDIT: Checking my records, 5454 exchanged DMBSO 14555 with 14264 of unit 5480 in October 1991, reason unknown. The latter then ran with three Blue/Grey coaches and one in NSE livery until withdrawn 20 January 1992. 5454 lasted in service until 14 May 1993. I was wondering whether 5480 was actually used between October and January - or was it sat in a siding awaiting formal condemnation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: I was wondering whether 5480 was actually used between October and January - or was it sat in a siding awaiting formal condemnation ? No idea in this case. Usually if it was a coming together of some sort, then my original sources would have mentioned it. There were a couple of similar units send for overhaul but condemned on inspection for poor bodywork condition (5451, 5469) at that time so it may be case of 5480 being in that category and a better condition vehicle being substituted for the one in 5454. TSO 15291 was swapped with 15037 of 5449 before 5480 was stripped and sent for scrap in February 1992, so it looks like 5480 was a sacrificial lamb, providing better condition stock for overall better condition units. Edited July 1, 2020 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Taken at SP depot just after a visit by Lisa Minelli. 5 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 20:53, Wickham Green too said: I guess it just shows my ignorance, but I wouldn't have guessed that Bulleid designed stock would have got NSE colours. At least I'm assuming it's Bulleid, the windows on the doors doors are characteristic of his work AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Zomboid said: I guess it just shows my ignorance, but I wouldn't have guessed that Bulleid designed stock would have got NSE colours. At least I'm assuming it's Bulleid, the windows on the doors doors are characteristic of his work AFAIK. Yes they're Bulleid-style 4EPBs - 72 of the 97 facelifted units numbered in the 54xx range received late NSE livery (darker blue with curved upsweeps). Edited July 1, 2020 by talisman56 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlambert Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 29/06/2020 at 11:04, SP Steve said: Go one different for your green / small yellow panel liveried loco by adopting the BR 'Arrows of Indecision' Class 31 D5677 (31.249) seen stabled on Tinsley depot. The Graham Farish range included this livery on the recently re-tooled class 31 when it was first released. I think it's quite a pleasing combination. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 A 60s steam loco pulling a train of blue/grey coaches including an ex-LMS Porthole brake. Manchester to Barrow service 1967 Is the Bachmann Porthole model the same as this coach? It might make for an interesting Limited Edition or modelling project if that's the case. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLBH Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 hours ago, montyburns56 said: A 60s steam loco pulling a train of blue/grey coaches including an ex-LMS Porthole brake. Steam and blue/grey coaches is one of those combinations that looks better than it has any right to, in my book at least! 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 Not sure what to do with all those tail lamps you've got knocking around in the spares draw....? Photo by Ian Dinmore.... 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted July 3, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rugd1022 said: Not sure what to do with all those tail lamps you've got knocking around in the spares draw....? Photo by Ian Dinmore.... A light load for the trolley! 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: Not sure what to do with all those tail lamps you've got knocking around in the spares draw....? Photo by Ian Dinmore.... Lovely pic, wonder if that was taken at the old Wellington side of Leeds City? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 25/06/2020 at 14:48, montyburns56 said: The experimental coal fired Class 47 was not considered a great success... Where is this please - can't place it - 3rd rail / OLE poles - am guessing NLL - Acton-ish somewhere ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) It's Acton Wells Jn, click the pic and it'll take you to Flickr Hope this helps Jo Edited July 4, 2020 by Steadfast 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The coal fired Brush is coming off the branch from Cricklewood and Dudding Hill Junction 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) On 04/07/2020 at 10:06, Southernman46 said: Where is this please - can't place it - 3rd rail / OLE poles - am guessing NLL - Acton-ish somewhere ?? It’s always worth clicking on a posted image to see if it has been linked from another website (which could potentially have a lot more information). Many posters make it clear when they post something that is not their own material, but not everyone does. Edited July 9, 2020 by Western Aviator 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 30/06/2020 at 18:17, talisman56 said: Probably reformed due to accident damage. The SR (and its successors) weren't known for repainting stock to match unless it was absolutely necessary... EDIT: Checking my records, 5454 exchanged DMBSO 14555 with 14264 of unit 5480 in October 1991, reason unknown. The latter then ran with three Blue/Grey coaches and one in NSE livery until withdrawn 20 January 1992. 5454 lasted in service until 14 May 1993. 5486 ran with one blue/grey and 3 x NSE for a time. Seen here at London Bridge in September 1992. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 23 hours ago, jonny777 said: 5486 ran with one blue/grey and 3 x NSE for a time. Seen here at London Bridge in September 1992. 5486 swapped its DMBSO 14071 with 14211 of 5468 after the latters' withdrawl in April 1992, no reason given, but assumed to be poor condition. 5486 survived until 5 August 1994. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 03/07/2020 at 21:30, jessy1692 said: Lovely pic, wonder if that was taken at the old Wellington side of Leeds City? The file info says "Hull BG" so was it there? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Fancy putting a 'privy' on your freight train? 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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