Wickham Green too Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, Mel_H said: Fancy putting a 'privy' on your freight train? Well, you shouldn't need to empty THAT retention tank very often. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 "You want how many brake vans?" SLS/MLS Furness Railtour 1967 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 That second photo has also managed to capture one of very few (maybe the only) Derby Lightweight in blue with SYP. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Well, you shouldn't need to empty THAT retention tank very often. Challenge accepted 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Mel_H said: Fancy putting a 'privy' on your freight train? Much cheaper than fitting tanks to every carriage. Run one of those in every consist and pipe all the carriages to it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: And the 08 is a prototype for when you've overdone the weathering, or to hide wasp stripes that went a bit dodgy.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2020 "the new tank wagons for the export of vintage malt whisky are marked as 'petrol and mineral oil', to deter pilfering - and have an armed guard as a last resort" 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted July 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, rab said: Much cheaper than fitting tanks to every carriage. Run one of those in every consist and pipe all the carriages to it. Ah, so that what's meant by "through piped".... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, rab said: Much cheaper than fitting tanks to every carriage. Run one of those in every consist and pipe all the carriages to it. I assumed it was added to the ends of trains before carriages got indoor plumbing. Mind you, I can see the level differences leading to some hilarious back-siphoning problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 26/06/2020 at 19:13, Western Aviator said: Here’s another unhealthy specimen. I remember pulling off the southbound M6 somewhere in Cumbria or Lancashire having seen this train waiting in a loop and assuming it would follow the next up passenger, which it did. Other than that, I don't know the exact location, loco number, what train it was or even the date (apart from early 90s). It is 37023, it had non standard marker lights at no2 end. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 7 hours ago, PatB said: I assumed it was added to the ends of trains before carriages got indoor plumbing. Mind you, I can see the level differences leading to some hilarious back-siphoning problems. To be boringly prosaic, it's a guard's lookout, a common feature of mainland European stock. It has a brake standard, and if he's lucky, a seat for the guard. Quite a few Italian and Spanish ferry vans were so equipped. I'm curious about the springs on the wagon; there seem to be two, parallel, sets of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: To be boringly prosaic, it's a guard's lookout, a common feature of mainland European stock. It has a brake standard, and if he's lucky, a seat for the guard. Quite a few Italian and Spanish ferry vans were so equipped. I'm curious about the springs on the wagon; there seem to be two, parallel, sets of them. Probably assister springs, common on road vehicles. There is a light spring in use all the time, but this deflects when the vehicle is loaded to bring a second, heavier spring into play to deal with the greater weight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, LMS2968 said: Probably assister springs, common on road vehicles. There is a light spring in use all the time, but this deflects when the vehicle is loaded to bring a second, heavier spring into play to deal with the greater weight. I think a few early air-brake wagons on BR had something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLBH Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Fat Controller said: To be boringly prosaic, it's a guard's lookout, a common feature of mainland European stock. It has a brake standard, and if he's lucky, a seat for the guard. Quite a few Italian and Spanish ferry vans were so equipped. In the days before continuous brakes, end, European and American railways provided a number of brakemen along the length of the train to set the brakes on their wagons in motion. I don't know if it was done much in the UK, although Ffestiniog gravity slate trains were worked this way. Obviously gives finer control than a brake van, but considerably more railwaymen to pay and rather worse conditions for them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 26/06/2020 at 19:13, Western Aviator said: Here’s another unhealthy specimen. I remember pulling off the southbound M6 somewhere in Cumbria or Lancashire having seen this train waiting in a loop and assuming it would follow the next up passenger, which it did. Other than that, I don't know the exact location, loco number, what train it was or even the date (apart from early 90s). EDIT: it’s subsequently been identified as 37023 (thanks to poster 37114 for the information). I didn't realise Class 37 engines had a 'make smoke' setting... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 Low Moor, Bradford 1967 Low Moor 1966 Bradford Exchange 1967 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Some great examples of weathering on those locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: Low Moor 1966 First engine number I ever recorded! It was a Polmadie engine at the time (1962). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 10 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Low Moor, Bradford 1967 Re-Sprayed coach without masking roof 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 7 hours ago, markw said: Re-Sprayed coach without masking roof Also the solebar! Worth also noting that this appears to be a newly outshopped blue and grey coach with a NE prefix in 1967, surely must have been one of the last applied as NE ceased to be used at the end of 1966 Jim 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, luckymucklebackit said: Also the solebar! I think blue would have been correct for a corporate solebar at this date ....... and note that the bogie ( etc.) is a very deep brown rather than black. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) And the very small numerals. This would be pretty much the Corporate Manual version of blue/grey i.e. as designed, before any concessions to day-to-day practicality. See also these pics from Robert Carroll on Flickr: Edited July 9, 2020 by keefer 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: I think blue would have been correct for a corporate solebar at this date ....... and note that the bogie ( etc.) is a very deep brown rather than black. Solebars were blue on mk1's until the end of the blue/grey era I believe. I certainly remember them in the mid 80's, though more often than not they were a rusty brown. Edited July 9, 2020 by rodent279 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2020 Corporate Manual spec sheets for mk1 & 2 coaches, courtesy doublearrow.co.uk : List of BR colours: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 07/07/2020 at 12:39, Wickham Green too said: I think a few early air-brake wagons on BR had something similar. I think it is for ride comfort for the guard, as the non-guard version has conventional single springs. If you want some, then Rivarossi are making them (new tooling), which is where the pictures came from... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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