Wickham Green too Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Mel_H said: ....... If you want some, then Rivarossi are making them (new tooling), which is where the pictures came from... If they were ferried into the UK in the late forties ( I see no chaining-down rings ) and if Rivarossi are producing them in 4mm scale I'd love to take a couple ....................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyh Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Here's one for when you're still saving up for the trailers! HST power cars, 43160 leading and 43088 pass Boat and Anchor crossing, Bridgwater, this afternoon 10/07/20, returning to Laira Depot from Wabtec, Doncaster Works. I understand these are 2 out of 4 additional power cars purchased for use as spares or possible additional Castle Class sets. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 *in a David Attenborough voice* "Here we see the Class M9 in its natural environment, hiding from its prey..... the trainspotter " 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 "Fancy a race?" Peterborough 1985 8 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: "Fancy a race?" Peterborough 1985 Hi Monty, Interestingly as a two car set the 110's had a better power to weight ratio than a standard HST set, possibly quicker over the first half a mile. Gibbo. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50A55B Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 That’s unusually far south for a 110. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: *in a David Attenborough voice* "Here we see the Class M9 in its natural environment, hiding from its prey..... the trainspotter " Looks to be a distant cousin of the genus "classicasixtysevenus" 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Gibbo675 said: Hi Monty, Interestingly as a two car set the 110's had a better power to weight ratio than a standard HST set, possibly quicker over the first half a mile. Gibbo. One evening back in the 70's, I was on a 304 going south leaving Nuneaton. At the same time, an 86 was also leaving south with a London train. There was a chap leaning out of a window of the kitchen car of the express; "beat you to Rugby" said I. The other chap just moved his head from side-to-side, saying no. The 304 raced away over the first half mile before being overtaken by the 86. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) On 09/07/2020 at 17:49, keefer said: And the very small numerals. This would be pretty much the Corporate Manual version of blue/grey i.e. as designed, before any concessions to day-to-day practicality. See also these pics from Robert Carroll on Flickr: The lower picture (Blaenau Ffestiniog?) must be no earlier than 1966, so I am impressed by the coach in the background extreme right of frame. It looks a bit like a Period 1 LMS Restaurant Car, but is in unlined maroon livery, which would be incorrect if such a vehicle still existed in service as late as this; lined maroon like the SK or SO behind it. This latter coach is a recent production as it has B4 bogies. On second thoughts it can't be Blaenau Ffestiniog. It isn't raining... Edited July 11, 2020 by The Johnster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Johnster said: The lower picture (Blaenau Ffestiniog?) must be no earlier than 1966, so I am impressed by the coach in the background extreme right of frame. It looks a bit like a Period 1 LMS Restaurant Car, but is in unlined maroon livery, which would be incorrect if such a vehicle still existed in service as late as this; lined maroon like the SK or SO behind it. This latter coach is a recent production as it has B4 bogies. On second thoughts it can't be Blaenau Ffestiniog. It isn't raining... I think that you are right about that being an ex-LMS catering vehicle on 6-wheel bogies. Probably in some departmental role rather than in public use. If I can find my copy of Jenkinson/Essery, I will check the date they were last in service. Edit to add: Last Period II catering vehicle in service (D1811), December 1962, so well before any blue/grey coaches. Edited July 11, 2020 by Joseph_Pestell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 13 hours ago, montyburns56 said: *in a David Attenborough voice* "Here we see the Class M9 in its natural environment, hiding from its prey..... the trainspotter " Is that one of those 67 relatives with a ruston engine? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 06/07/2020 at 19:29, montyburns56 said: "You want how many brake vans?" SLS/MLS Furness Railtour 1967 On the subject of brake vans, we may have had this before - but it is worth a second post. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, jonny777 said: On the subject of brake vans, we may have had this before - but it is worth a second post. Interesting the loco isn't showing engine and van headcode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Johnster said: The lower picture (Blaenau Ffestiniog?) must be no earlier than 1966, so I am impressed by the coach in the background extreme right of frame. It looks a bit like a Period 1 LMS Restaurant Car, but is in unlined maroon livery, which would be incorrect if such a vehicle still existed in service as late as this; lined maroon like the SK or SO behind it. This latter coach is a recent production as it has B4 bogies. On second thoughts it can't be Blaenau Ffestiniog. It isn't raining... How about a Period 2 Corridor third something like M1498 or M1501 (D1782) which became Mess & Dorm vans? 1501 is preserved, was DM395801 http://www.lmsca.org.uk/stock/1501.php Edited July 11, 2020 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, russ p said: Interesting the loco isn't showing engine and van headcode No, it is a class E (I think) lamp code, but maybe they only connected up the first few vehicles to save time? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, russ p said: Interesting the loco isn't showing engine and van headcode It would be wrong if it was. Class G, later 0, was light engine and up to TWO brake vans, which hardly fits in this case. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) The vans look very uniform for "in service" vehicles. Are we sure it's not a delivery run of new/refurbished vehicles? If such were the case, would an engine and van code be appropriate, or would it be a normal freight which just happens to be made up of vehicles that look like brake vans? Edit: Oops. Just blew the photo up a bit and read the caption. Next time, maybe I'll do that before asking the question. Edited July 11, 2020 by PatB 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, melmerby said: How about a Period 2 Corridor third something like M1498 or M1501 (D1782) which became Mess & Dorm vans? 1501 is preserved, was DM395801 http://www.lmsca.org.uk/stock/1501.php I don't think it's a Dia.1782 as what would have been compartment ventilator looks to be more-or less centred over the axlebox - wrong for PII TK or TO .......... I'd guess a former catering vehicle or Brake Third which didn't have the lavvy at the end !!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, jonny777 said: On the subject of brake vans, we may have had this before - but it is worth a second post. Must have been from the last batch built ( Lot 3394 ) - these were 250 vans from Ashford .............. they're probably not all behind that single Type 2, tho. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexEclectic Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 08/07/2020 at 14:21, talisman56 said: I didn't realise Class 37 engines had a 'make smoke' setting... I always wondered why so many locos were named after Warships.... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: I don't think it's a Dia.1782 as what would have been compartment ventilator looks to be more-or less centred over the axlebox - wrong for PII TK or TO .......... I'd guess a former catering vehicle or Brake Third which didn't have the lavvy at the end !!?! I'll have a look again at the coach list in Hugh Longworths book It lists, as well as when the coaches finished revenue service, any later life as departmentals. Essery & Jenkinson don't have that info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 hours ago, melmerby said: Mess & Dorm vans? Didn’t Luciano Pavarotti sing about those? I’ll get my coat (again). 2 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2020 18 hours ago, The Johnster said: The lower picture (Blaenau Ffestiniog?) must be no earlier than 1966, so I am impressed by the coach in the background extreme right of frame. It looks a bit like a Period 1 LMS Restaurant Car, but is in unlined maroon livery, which would be incorrect if such a vehicle still existed in service as late as this; lined maroon like the SK or SO behind it. This latter coach is a recent production as it has B4 bogies. On second thoughts it can't be Blaenau Ffestiniog. It isn't raining... On Flickr Robert Carroll shows the date as 24-9-66 which would make it the LCGB Conwy Valley Railtour. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/60s/660924lc.html. Regarding the LMS coach, all of the post-grouping restaurant cars were flush sided, not beaded panelling, so it isn't one of those. I am drawn to the possibility of it being one of the D1707 Royal Scot semi-open firsts which went into departmental stock c1957/58. Some LMR departmentals were finished in unlined maroon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 11, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: On Flickr Robert Carroll shows the date as 24-9-66 which would make it the LCGB Conwy Valley Railtour. https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/60s/660924lc.html. Regarding the LMS coach, all of the post-grouping restaurant cars were flush sided, not beaded panelling, so it isn't one of those. I am drawn to the possibility of it being one of the D1707 Royal Scot semi-open firsts which went into departmental stock c1957/58. Some LMR departmentals were finished in unlined maroon. All of 1023-1027 (D1707) went into departmental use. 1023 (DM395205) is preserved on the East Lancs Railway: http://lmsca.org.uk/wiki/1023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 11 hours ago, russ p said: Is that one of those 67 relatives with a ruston engine? Yep, although judging from the problems with it seems to be the black sheep of the family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Railways_M9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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