Davey Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Hi Rodent 279, Is that what you call a measured response? Davey 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 One Rail Head Treatment Train assists another one: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 21:08, 37114 said: 37292 was the one updated to 2000HP, it is still running today as 37425 albeit back at 1,750. Like other attempts to increase or reduce horse power there was always a trade off with wear and tear on the engine and the gains weren't worth the additional maintenance costs. The correct horse power setting for the refurbished 37s is 1800hp not 1750hp. 37292 was quite a noisy machine remember it turning up at BG on before working back north with 6S68. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Aire Head said: I told you that the baseboard edge was prototypical! Peco introduce their loading platform for 00 wagons onto EM gauge flats..... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2020 Got too many locos? Just "furlough" them: 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted November 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2020 I counted 95 laid-up locos in one line alone! Not a good sign for the health of US railroads. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 13/11/2020 at 09:33, melmerby said: Got too many locos? Just "furlough" them: Hi Keith, Look on the bright side, while all the spotters are off work due to deferred unemployment (furlough) they can get all those numbers scratched in !!! Gibbo. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Chocolate & Spilt Milk or Plum & Cream ??? .......... Western, yes - but Great or North ??!? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Chocolate & Spilt Milk or Plum & Cream ??? .......... Western, yes - but Great or North ??!? IIRC that's been on before. The "GWR" livery is stuck onto an ex LNWR coach. It was done for a film. Edited November 14, 2020 by melmerby 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Chocolate & Spilt Milk or Plum & Cream ??? .......... Western, yes - but Great or North ??!? Where is that? The old Euston? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted November 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2020 So, you have a single Mk3 coach and you don’t know what to do with it. Stick it in a rake of Mk1 and 2 coaches and hope nobody will notice.... Photo by Stephen Dance on Flickr 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, melmerby said: IIRC that's been on before. The "GWR" livery is stuck onto an ex LNWR coach. It was done for a film. Well, vice-versa actually ..... and there was an LMS one too .................................. at the old Marylebone ! Can anyone give an exact identity for these ? Edited November 14, 2020 by Wickham Green too 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted November 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Chocolate & Spilt Milk or Plum & Cream ??? .......... Western, yes - but Great or North ??!? It is SPLIT milk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 "The classic LNWR livery is often referred to as 'plum and spilt milk' ..." according to David Jenkinson in his LNWR Carriages History ..... otherwise he refers to the upper panels as 'off white'. ( The exact colour probably depends what the milk was spilt onto ......... but that's splitting hairs. ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: "The classic LNWR livery is often referred to as 'plum and spilt milk' ..." according to David Jenkinson in his LNWR Carriages History ..... otherwise he refers to the upper panels as 'off white'. ( The exact colour probably depends what the milk was spilt onto ......... but that's splitting hairs. ) An historic controversy: spilt milk or split milk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Well, there's no point crying over it whatever it is! Sorry... Jo 1 3 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Western Aviator said: So, you have a single Mk3 coach and you don’t know what to do with it. Stick it in a rake of Mk1 and 2 coaches and hope nobody will notice.... Photo by Stephen Dance on Flickr Thanks for posting this photo, it reminded me of one I took at Stirling in 1985. 47523 leaves the station with an array of different coaching stock; and if you only have a couple each of Mk1s, Mk2a, Mk2d, Mk3, just lash them together and run your service anyway. Edited November 15, 2020 by jonny777 line feeds 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2020 That's probably the 'Clansman' (Euston-Inverness), well known for its mix of stock. Another pic, courtesy of Eastbank MRC: http://www.eastbank.org.uk/images/Coaches/UK4029.jpg "47593 leads a Mk.1 BG, Mk.2f TSO, Mk.2f TSO, Mk.2c TSO, Mk.1 RU(B), Mk.3 FO, Mk.2a TSO and a Mk.2f TSO passing Faskally, just north of Pitlochry." 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said: An historic controversy: spilt milk or split milk? An' if you spill your split milk what colour is it then ??!? ( The debate over malachite rages on, too ! ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: An' if you spill your split milk what colour is it then ??!? ( The debate over malachite rages on, too ! ) Depends on the carpet. But to get back on subject, split milk has just a hint of blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2020 18 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Well, vice-versa actually ..... and there was an LMS one too .................................. at the old Marylebone ! Can anyone give an exact identity for these ? It was IIRC a right mish-mash Wasn't the firstcoach a Hawksworth brake with LNWR style vinyls but lettered GWR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Joseph_Pestell said: ........to get back on subject, split milk has just a hint of blue. Putting a small amount of blue in "white" paint was a regular painter's trick before the advent of Brilliant White. It was supposed to make it look more white in daylight, just like using Reckitt's Blue in the wash to get whiter whites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Putting a small amount of blue in "white" paint was a regular painter's trick before the advent of Brilliant White. It was supposed to make it look more white in daylight, just like using Reckitt's Blue in the wash to get whiter whites. Hi There, The weird thing about all of this milk coloured paint is that brilliant white paint is made using titanium dioxide, titanium dioxide is also put into skimmed milk so that it looks white instead of unpalatable, which of course it is !!! Full cream unpasteurised for me. Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 My problem with plum and spilt milk is that neither colours appear to be relevant to the description in real life. Looking at the NRM restored livery, the 'plum' looks quite brown and I most UK plums tend to have a more red hue (or at least mine do - they are much lighter, even the Victoria's). I don't know what spilt or split milk looks like, but their version seems to be cream to me. I know I am committing heresy, but brown and pale cream seems more appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, jonny777 said: My problem with plum and spilt milk is that neither colours appear to be relevant to the description in real life. Looking at the NRM restored livery, the 'plum' looks quite brown and I most UK plums tend to have a more red hue (or at least mine do - they are much lighter, even the Victoria's). I don't know what spilt or split milk looks like, but their version seems to be cream to me. I know I am committing heresy, but brown and pale cream seems more appropriate. It's a long time since I last saw the NRM coaches. But I think that the true colour should be close to black with a slight bluish tinge to it. Can't remember which variety of plum that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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