great central Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) Not necessarily 'prototype for everything' but definitely unusual. Had a Meridian on Derby-Crewe services today. We only get about 10 minutes at Crewe so to get the Meridian and a West Coast Voyager in the same photo is quite fortunate. Edit: there were also a pair of very shiny Intercity liveried class 90s on the former diesel depot Edited November 26, 2020 by great central Add last paragraph 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2020 Transit minibus converted to railcar in Romania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeBIxI7n1I Even has it's own turning jack. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Welly said: Transit minibus converted to railcar in Romania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zeBIxI7n1I Even has it's own turning jack. Featured on one of Chris Tarrant's programmes. Probably the most "extreme rail journey" in the series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, great central said: Not necessarily 'prototype for everything' but definitely unusual. Had a Meridian on Derby-Crewe services today. We only get about 10 minutes at Crewe so to get the Meridian and a West Coast Voyager in the same photo is quite fortunate. Edit: there were also a pair of very shiny Intercity liveried class 90s on the former diesel depot Must admit, I don't think I've seen many photos of the two Voyager variants together, though I guess they would be seen together at Derby, Sheffield and Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 minute ago, rodent279 said: Must admit, I don't think I've seen many photos of the two Voyager variants together, though I guess they would be seen together at Derby, Sheffield and Leeds. That's true, I suppose I'm being a bit pedantic because it's a West coast voyager, still in more or less Virgin livery, rather than the ones now run by Cross Country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, great central said: That's true, I suppose I'm being a bit pedantic because it's a West coast voyager, still in more or less Virgin livery, rather than the ones now run by Cross Country. Fair point, you wouldn't (normally) see WC liveried Voyagers at Derby etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, rodent279 said: Fair point, you wouldn't (normally) see WC liveried Voyagers at Derby etc. No word of a lie, I went onto Flickr moments ago and this popped up: Obviously from a while ago now. Unusual to see a 222 at Crewe nowadays so the original pic is definitely worthy of this thread IMO. Jack. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 Yes, I guess for a couple of years until XC took over, VT liveried Voyagers would have been seen alongside Meridians, but I'd imagine it's not common now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Jack374 said: No word of a lie, I went onto Flickr moments ago and this popped up: Obviously from a while ago now. Unusual to see a 222 at Crewe nowadays so the original pic is definitely worthy of this thread IMO. Jack. That really shows the years and, to some degree lack of upkeep, XC hasn't been a Virgin franchise since (without checking) 2007 I don't think. Midland mainline ceased to exist at the same time, being the London operations of the new EMT franchise, XC absorbing the some of the longer distance ex Central Trains routes. The Virgin shield position on the front can still be seen on some voyagers and the seats are still the same. The Meridian meanwhile got a new paint job and full internal refit but the seats are now looking very tired. They are now getting an interim vinyled livery pending the introduction of new bi mode things in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Do you have mostly green diesels on your layout, but fancy a brand new shiny blue brake tender? No problem if the location is York..... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SP Steve Posted November 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Fancy something a little bit different on the HST front? A series of test trains at the upper end of the WCML in June 1982 (to investigate the result of running at high speed with two pantographs raised) saw an HST in RTC action. Seen heading south at Carlisle on 18/06/82 was: 43193 RDB975422 "PROMETHEUS" 40517 TRUK 40512 TRUK 40514 TRUK 40515 TRUK 40513 TRUK 44092 TGS 44094 TGS RDB975000 43194 I later saw the same service arrive into Preston so it may have later returned north or possibly returned to Derby RTC Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SP Steve said: Fancy something a little bit different on the HST front? A series of test trains at the upper end of the WCML in June 1982 (to investigate the result of running at high speed with two pantographs raised) saw an HST in RTC action. Seen heading south at Carlisle on 18/06/82 was: 43193 RDB975000 "PROMETHEUS" 40517 TRUK 40512 TRUK 40514 TRUK 40515 TRUK 40513 TRUK 44092 TGS 44094 TGS RDB975442 43194 I later saw the same service arrive into Preston so it may have later returned north or possibly returned to Derby RTC According to "Departmentals" site both those pantograph test cars were scrapped. BTW it lists 975422 as Prometheus not 975000 Edited November 27, 2020 by melmerby 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, SP Steve said: Fancy something a little bit different on the HST front? A series of test trains at the upper end of the WCML in June 1982 (to investigate the result of running at high speed with two pantographs raised) saw an HST in RTC action. Seen heading south at Carlisle on 18/06/82 was: 43193 RDB975000 "PROMETHEUS" 40517 TRUK 40512 TRUK 40514 TRUK 40515 TRUK 40513 TRUK 44092 TGS 44094 TGS RDB975442 43194 I later saw the same service arrive into Preston so it may have later returned north or possibly returned to Derby RTC Presumably, the staff made full use of all the catering facilities? Starters, Fish course, Meat course, Desserts, Cheese Boards all prepared in individual TRUKs? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2020 June 1982 running out of Craigentinny depot: http://www.traintesting.com/Highspeed_pan.htm BR were considering proposals for an electric version of the HST at the time and were concerned about running two raised pantographs either end of a 8 coach train (roof mounted bus bars being frowned upon at the time). Steven B. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Can’t post photos as not mine but.... for those wanting to run large locos on short trains .... and no turntable perhaps.... 1965 pigeon workings, Wolverhampton LL to Great Malvern. A single BG .... Thompson, Gresley or Stanier.... varied power, Large Prarie, Britannia and Standard 5 all featured. Return to Worcester was tender first. Edited November 27, 2020 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Fancy a domino headcode but not at the front? 25.210 sports a natty patch up to one of its engine room windows utilising what would appear to be a domino headcode glass from a split box type, either Class 40 or 45. The loco was working through with two brand new Mk3 sleepers in tow (10553 and 10561). Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, SP Steve said: Fancy something a little bit different on the HST front? A series of test trains at the upper end of the WCML in June 1982 (to investigate the result of running at high speed with two pantographs raised) saw an HST in RTC action. Seen heading south at Carlisle on 18/06/82 was: 43193 RDB975000 "PROMETHEUS" 40517 TRUK 40512 TRUK 40514 TRUK 40515 TRUK 40513 TRUK 44092 TGS 44094 TGS RDB975442 43194 I later saw the same service arrive into Preston so it may have later returned north or possibly returned to Derby RTC Apart from the test cars, the formation seems to be feature most of the coaches used for the driver training sets seen on this thread a while back (iirc these two PCs as well) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, SP Steve said: Fancy a domino headcode but not at the front? 25.210 sports a natty patch up to one of its engine room windows utilising what would appear to be a domino headcode glass from a split box type, either Class 40 or 45. The loco was working through with two brand new Mk3 sleepers in tow (10553 and 10561). Until I read the caption, I thought that the notable bit about this picture was that it showed a class 25 hauling Mk3 coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Western Aviator said: Until I read the caption, I thought that the notable bit about this picture was that it showed a class 25 hauling Mk3 coaches. With a class 303 lurking in the background unless I am very mush mistaken! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2020 If you have a US based layout, see the first few minutes of this for something different: (no not the the trains!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 7 hours ago, melmerby said: If you have a US based layout, see the first few minutes of this for something different: (no not the the trains!) Reminds me of my garden railway on November 5th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Speaking of HSTs and Prometheus there was a working on the ECML around 1998 with 43-mk3-mk1 lab-Prometheus-mk3-43 which came thundering through Durham Station just as I was packing my camera away ready to leave. ISTR it had a mixture of Virgin, GNER and Intercity swallow liveries on the HST stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 P4? EM?, nope, here is (as near as dammit) genuine correct Prototype 00 gauge track. Glasgow Subway surface Depot at Govan, with new stock on test. Jim 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Trouble is, the loading gauge is so small it makes the track gauge look bigger in comparison ! Is the new stock still clockwork, by the way ? - it doesn't look very orange ! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: P4? EM?, nope, here is (as near as dammit) genuine correct Prototype 00 gauge track. Glasgow Subway surface Depot at Govan, with new stock on test. Jim A useless piece of info The track just there used to be 4' 8½" when it was part of the Glasgow & Paisley Jt. to Govan. The Subway works use part of the area of the old goods facilities of the G&P Jt. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=55.85985&lon=-4.31112&layers=168&right=BingHyb Edited November 29, 2020 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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