Wickham Green too Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, melmerby said: How do you fix a bullhead check rail, with it's associated chair, to a flatbottom running rail? Does that actually mean that running rail is another bullhead? If I remember rightly, the bullhead, being shallower than the flatbottom was effectively sitting on the bottom flange of the latter - with special chair--baseplates. Obviously you can't do that with a second flatbottom as the flangeway would be to wide. The Service with Unit1006 & 1005's Power Cars was the 10.35 from Hastings to Charing Cross - so 1006, at least, was in passenger use. Yes, Bopeep Junction was named after a local hostelry .... I don't know whether it's still there. The Long Thin Drag ran on 12th April using units 1011 & 1032 with the Power Cars of 1001 ...... it achieved the most northerly and highest points ever reached by Hastings Units : Carlisle and Ais Gill respectively. ( It was NOT named after a scrawny transvestite.) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Unit 1006 was among those stored from 26th April 1986 - exactly a week after these photos - and 1005 was among those which joined it in withdrawal the next day .......... though some of the motor coaches were retained in working order for a little longer. Incidentally - did anyone spot the odd track ? - Flat bottom running rail but bullhead check rail ! : - I thought this arrangement used to be reasonably common. Bullhead rail was in plentiful supply, it was easier to bend and would fit inside the FB rail section. It needs special baseplate/chairs, of course. Mixed chaired and flat bottom running rails would be exceptionally unusual, I would have thought. Usually when you replace rails you replace everything else. Although a single broken rail might be replaced, I cannot imagine it not being replaced with the same type of rail. However, after doing a web search, I have found this, at Baker Street on the Bakerloo line. Here, of course, there are no sleepers to replace: https://hydeparknow.uk/2019/01/24/rare-mixed-track-at-baker-street/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeremy C said: I thought this arrangement used to be reasonably common. Bullhead rail was in plentiful supply, it was easier to bend and would fit inside the FB rail section. It needs special baseplate/chairs, of course. Mixed chaired and flat bottom running rails would be exceptionally unusual, I would have thought. Usually when you replace rails you replace everything else. Although a single broken rail might be replaced, I cannot imagine it not being replaced with the same type of rail. However, after doing a web search, I have found this, at Baker Street on the Bakerloo line. Here, of course, there are no sleepers to replace: https://hydeparknow.uk/2019/01/24/rare-mixed-track-at-baker-street/ Interesting, thanks for digging that up. Don't think I've ever seen a mixed rail arrangement. My only question is would the rail heights be the same, as BH is slightly smaller in profile than FB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, rodent279 said: Interesting, thanks for digging that up. Don't think I've ever seen a mixed rail arrangement. My only question is would the rail heights be the same, as BH is slightly smaller in profile than FB. Doesn't the bullhead chair hold the rail higher above the sleeper? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, rodent279 said: Interesting, thanks for digging that up. Don't think I've ever seen a mixed rail arrangement. My only question is would the rail heights be the same, as BH is slightly smaller in profile than FB. With the restricted headroom available on the Tube lines, I'd guess LU have FB rail rolled to suit ...... though, as melmerby points out there could be a difference in chair/baseplate thickness in the equation too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted December 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: With the restricted headroom available on the Tube lines, I'd guess LU have FB rail rolled to suit ...... though, as melmerby points out there could be a difference in chair/baseplate thickness in the equation too. Code 55 instead of code 80 (in N terms) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Steven B Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) "Dave, we've got these random coaches left in the stock box. Do you want me to put together another train using them?" "Nah, nothing like that ever ran on the real thing" Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr BR Blue loco Royal Mail BG Intercity Executive GUV Scotrail Mk3 CO Regional Railways Mk2 TSO Scotrail Mk3 TSO Intercity Swallow DVT Five (or six) liveries in a seven vehicle train. Can anyone do better? Edited December 15, 2020 by Steven B Added formation 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Run out of transfers for your loco numbers? Just scribble it on, doesn't even have to be neat: 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BR(S) said: Run out of transfers for your loco numbers? Just scribble it on, doesn't even have to be neat: Would you trust that if a spotter and that was all you could see? On a visit to Crewe works many years ago there were a number of equipment cubicles with different class 47 numbers on them, yet none of the actual locos was on the works. Edited December 15, 2020 by brushman47544 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, brushman47544 said: Would you trust that if a spotter and that was all you could see? Nah ! ...................... doesn't look a bit like "Gordon". 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, BR(S) said: Run out of transfers for your loco numbers? Just scribble it on, doesn't even have to be neat: ΛΛ Some of my track is like that. At least it's prototypical Edited December 15, 2020 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Steven B said: "Dave, we've got these random coaches left in the stock box. Do you want me to put together another train using them?" "Nah, nothing like that ever ran on the real thing" Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr BR Blue loco Royal Mail BG Intercity Executive GUV Scotrail Mk3 CO Regional Railways Mk2 TSO Scotrail Mk3 TSO Intercity Swallow DVT Five (or six) liveries in a seven vehicle train. Can anyone do better? you even don't need to have the DVT the correct way round 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 hours ago, melmerby said: ΛΛ Some of my track is like that. At least it's prototypical You think that's bad track??? Try this.... Prototype for everything.... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Steven B said: "Dave, we've got these random coaches left in the stock box. Do you want me to put together another train using them?" "Nah, nothing like that ever ran on the real thing" Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr Crewe coaching stock. by Matt Taylor, on Flickr BR Blue loco Royal Mail BG Intercity Executive GUV Scotrail Mk3 CO Regional Railways Mk2 TSO Scotrail Mk3 TSO Intercity Swallow DVT Five (or six) liveries in a seven vehicle train. Can anyone do better? 13 hours ago, ajwffc said: you even don't need to have the DVT the correct way round Looking at the second picture, there appears to be another red BG behind the DVT 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: You think that's bad track??? Try this.... Prototype for everything.... The real thing: 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, melmerby said: The real thing: What happened to the rest of the train behind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, pH said: What happened to the rest of the train behind? Surprisingly stayed on the track. To be fair, that one was a heat buckle rather than neglect. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimble Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 15/12/2020 at 16:54, brushman47544 said: Would you trust that if a spotter and that was all you could see? Depends on how badly I needed/wanted that particular loco... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Seen on a main line in Nigeria a few years ago. The bridge had been washed out and the abutment of the replacement had settled a bit. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Quite appropriate that you posted this eastglosmog, as the East Gloucestershire Railway had dips at overbridges, this is one at an underbridge instead ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Is that a bit of rubbish on the left hand rail or a rail bandage ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, duncan said: Is that a bit of rubbish on the left hand rail or a rail bandage ? They ran out of fishplates 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2020 It can be surprisingly hard to derail a train: Makes you think that with typically larger than scale flanges and wheel tread we really shouldn't be suffering from derailments with our models. Steven B 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted December 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Steven B said: It can be surprisingly hard to derail a train: Makes you think that with typically larger than scale flanges and wheel tread we really shouldn't be suffering from derailments with our models. Steven B Probably something to do with the fact that while our flanges are larger than scale, the weight of our models is proportionally a lot less. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 Have you ever wished you could run a crazy liveried locomotive on a 1950s steam layout without being subjected to judgmental finger wagging? You might try one of these specials - 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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