Bon Accord Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jonny777 said: I am adding this image because I was not aware that 27s and push-pull sets worked across the Forth Bridge, but this appears to show otherwise. D5400 (I think) just south of Dalmeny. There is a possibility it's a diversion due to Winchburgh tunnel being closed, therefore the train wouldn't have been across the bridge. When such a closure occurs Eastbound trains turn off the E&G at Winchburgh Junction heading Northwards for Dalmeny. Once there they stop short of the station, reverse and then proceed South directly towards Edinburgh. Westbound trains do the same in reverse. In this image the train appears to be crossing from the down to the up line, which would fit in with just such a diversion. Edited January 15, 2021 by Bon Accord 4 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Thanks Bon Accord; it would make more sense, as I had not heard of push-pull services going north. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bon Accord said: There is a possibility it's a diversion due to Winchburgh tunnel being closed, therefore the train wouldn't have been across the bridge. When such a closure occurs Eastbound trains turn off the E&G at Winchburgh Junction heading Northwards for Dalmeny. Once there they stop short of the station, reverse and then proceed South directly towards Edinburgh. That was a common event, even in recent times, often due to flooding at Winchburgh Tunnel or points failures at Newbridge Jc. However, no longer possible for the majority of services along the E&G, since electrification ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wickham Green too Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, jonny777 said: ...... I was not aware that 27s and push-pull sets worked across the Forth Bridge, ...... OK, it's not a class 27 push-pull but it is a wee bit north of the Forth : - 27/3/85 Edited January 15, 2021 by Wickham Green too 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, caradoc said: That was a common event, even in recent times, often due to flooding at Winchburgh Tunnel or points failures at Newbridge Jc. However, no longer possible for the majority of services along the E&G, since electrification ! Reversal could also happen if there was a problem on the lead loco. if minor, like the speedo, then the loco was still useful (i.e. shoving), if more serious, it at least let the train continue in service. Also, if for some reason the BSO was not at the Glasgow end, then the train was supposed to be turned at the earliest opportunity. Such was the intensity of these services, they were kept running as much as possible - there were even horn codes (for signalboxes) when approaching Edinburgh or Glasgow, to signify the need for a new loco on arrival. Edited January 15, 2021 by keefer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wickham Green too Posted January 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Reverse Bustitution ? ............... Not enough Pacer Skipper railbuses in traffic today ? - just put on a class 50 and four coach set instead ( Mk2c BSO, Mk2e TSO, Mk2e FO & Mk1 RBR ! - why didn't I record the numbers ??!? ) : - Paignton to Newton Abbot, 4/9/86 Edited January 16, 2021 by Wickham Green too 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wickham Green too Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Have you finally discovered the question of Life the Universe and Everything ? - the answer fits ! Edited January 21, 2021 by Wickham Green too 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium blackpete Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 15/01/2021 at 21:08, Wickham Green too said: Reverse Bustitution ? ............... Not enough Pacer Skipper railbuses in traffic today ? - just put on a class 50 and four coach set instead ( Mk2c BSO, Mk2e TSO, Mk2e FO & Mk1 RBR ! - why didn't I record the numbers ??!? ) : - Paignton to Newton Abbot, 4/9/86 GWR have announced that as a short-term replacement for the 143s, they will be using 3+2 HST sets 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, blackpete said: GWR have announced that as a short-term replacement for the 143s, they will be using 3+2 HST sets Is this for real? What routes? I'd love to be able to catch one from Starcross to Exeter Central, the climb from St David's would be great! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium blackpete Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said: Is this for real? What routes? I'd love to be able to catch one from Starcross to Exeter Central, the climb from St David's would be great! It's in January's Rail Express. They'd certainly have a great power to weight ratio 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, blackpete said: It's in January's Rail Express. They'd certainly have a great power to weight ratio Similar but not the same story on the Modern Railways site here, dated 24 Dec 20: https://www.keymodernrailways.com/article/23-hsts-help-oust-gwr-pacers which seems to say that while waiting for more sliding door conversions, they’re shuffling the existing trailers into sets of 3 instead of 4 in order to make best use of the power cars. That, together with a shuffle of other DMUs, means they can do without the pacers. I don’t think it implies 2+3 HSTs to Exmouth. Time to start watching the Dawlish webcam maybe, to work out what’s on what services. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 20/01/2021 at 19:14, montyburns56 said: Why did the Sentinel cross the road? River Don Works 1982 If I'm right in thinking, the railway there is long gone but the warning signeage is still beside the road. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, blackpete said: GWR have announced that as a short-term replacement for the 143s, they will be using 3+2 HST sets Three power cars and 2 coaches?. Is the climb from St David's that steep? 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, newbryford said: Three power cars and 2 coaches?. Is the climb from St David's that steep? Enough to stall several steam specials in the last few years. 2 x 2-6-4T and a second one 76079 + 34067 Exeter Bank there are more I think if you search YouTube. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted January 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ben B said: If I'm right in thinking, the railway there is long gone but the warning signeage is still beside the road. Isn’t there a giant metal Scorpion there now ??!! cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Ben B said: If I'm right in thinking, the railway there is long gone but the warning signeage is still beside the road. Google street view shows some unlit traffic lights: https://goo.gl/maps/94SqpLgcMgeD1iJJ9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said: Google street view shows some unlit traffic lights: https://goo.gl/maps/94SqpLgcMgeD1iJJ9 Hi- yeah that's the spot. About 8 years ago I can remember driving that way a few times whilst I was doing some work with a gallery in Sheffield, and there was definitely still the triangular sign warning of a level crossing either on or immediately before those lights. It stuck in my memory as I meant to go back and photograph any remains of the lines, but subsequent trips to Meadowhall all involved coming in off the Motorway and I haven't been back past Forgemasters for a while. Looks like the signs have gone anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) At the opposite corner, there seems to be an old, round sign under the modern 'No Admittance' sign. Also seems to be a Blue Plaque, (commemorating the history of the works perhaps?) Edited October 24, 2022 by keefer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Did your cat knock your EE Type 4 off the baseboard and onto the garage floor? Never mind, just invest in a breakdown crane and re-create this Powdehall incident..... 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, keefer said: At the opposite corner, there seems to be an old, round sign under the modern 'No Admittance' sign. Also seems to be a Blue Plaque, (commemorating the history of the works perhaps?) This? But obviously not on the same wall. Edited January 22, 2021 by melmerby 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) More Likely This: Edited January 22, 2021 by melmerby 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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