Wickham Green too Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I'm not sure about the top corners ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 Large static caravans were regularly taken across the Menai Bridge by train. Normally they would have been delivered by road from the manufacturers, but wouldn`t fit across the road bridge. There are photos of some of these workings on the 2D53 website. When Britannia Bridge was rebuilt after the fire the transporters used the new road deck, so the traffic ceased. The caravans were loaded at Bangor IIRC, and unloaded at one of the goods yards on Anglesey. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 27/07/2020 at 11:59, DK123GWR said: How did they manage that? I think it's a very good idea. The use of the incorrect stencil draws the eye to the perceived 'fault' which is hard-wired into all of us. By the time you've deciphered the message, there's a high probability you've got the message, which is the original point. Edward de Bono at its finest..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, tomparryharry said: .... By the time you've deciphered the message, there's a high probability you've ..... ... been hit by a train while trying to read it from all angles. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 hours ago, nigb55009 said: Large static caravans were regularly taken across the Menai Bridge by train. Do you actually mean static caravans? They are typically 10' wide, 8' high and between 28' & 40' long. IMHO not on a UK train. Too wide & probably too high on the corners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 Yes they were static caravans. Don`t forget, I`m talking about the late sixties, early seventies. Static caravans were a lot smaller. If you have a look at photos you`ll see what I mean. The caravans were carried on what look like flatrols, so that should , hopefully give some sense of their size. If you go on the 2d53 site, click on the Llanfair page, at the bottom is a link to the caravan story. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, melmerby said: Do you actually mean static caravans? They are typically 10' wide, 8' high and between 28' & 40' long. IMHO not on a UK train. Too wide & probably too high on the corners quick google turns this up https://www.2d53.co.uk/llanfairpg/caravan.htm 6 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jonboy said: quick google turns this up https://www.2d53.co.uk/llanfairpg/caravan.htm Look wider than the 8' 10" of the 24 but must be a bit narrower than 10'. Edited February 28, 2021 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 Looks like a class 24 is 8’ 10” wide (per Wikipedia), and the middle photo shows a small overhang on the visible side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 The evolution of British coal hopper wagons in one picture.... Ashington 1986 27 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted February 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Western Aviator said: I’ll bet there’s a faster train behind it cursing because it can’t overtake the caravans..... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Mel_H said: Bought too many 1:76 caravans? Simple, pop them on a flat wagon. 25 026 on a train of caravans at Dundee 13/6/78 (RCTS) [Never seen pictures of this type of traffic before!] .. and not conveyed on anything fancy, just a standard Boplate. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Well, they're not cars so you can't use a carflat ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 Presumably worked under special instructions as an out-of-gauge load i.e speed restriction and other line kept clear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 14 hours ago, melmerby said: Do you actually mean static caravans? They are typically 10' wide, 8' high and between 28' & 40' long. IMHO not on a UK train. Too wide & probably too high on the corners The days of the 10ft wide Static Caravan are long gone, 12ft has been the standard for many years now Jim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: The days of the 10ft wide Static Caravan are long gone, 12ft has been the standard for many years now Jim I got my info from a sales site and there are still plenty of 10' ones around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 56 minutes ago, melmerby said: I got my info from a sales site and there are still plenty of 10' ones around 10ft ones are still available but the default now seems to be the 12ft wide variant, although some are now 13ft. Then there's the double units costing near on £100k! There's a couple of those on the Haven site I walk past regularly, funny thing is they don't seem to be used that often and the site season is shorter than where mine is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, great central said: 10ft ones are still available but the default now seems to be the 12ft wide variant, although some are now 13ft. Then there's the double units costing near on £100k! There's a couple of those on the Haven site I walk past regularly, funny thing is they don't seem to be used that often and the site season is shorter than where mine is. Agree you can probably pick up at 10 ft van second hand, but most sites are laid out with pitches for 12 ft vans and most would not let you site the older vans on their site. I don't think any of the major manufacturers make 10 footers any more. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: Agree you can probably pick up at 10 ft van second hand, but most sites are laid out with pitches for 12 ft vans and most would not let you site the older vans on their site. I don't think any of the major manufacturers make 10 footers any more. Jim There's always been a bit of "no oldies" on sites. My parents had a static, probaly 10', in the 70s (bought new) but when they let it go, although still in top nick it was virtually worthless as most sites want the old van off and a new one in it's place. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, luckymucklebackit said: Agree you can probably pick up at 10 ft van second hand, but most sites are laid out with pitches for 12 ft vans and most would not let you site the older vans on their site. I don't think any of the major manufacturers make 10 footers any more. Jim I've dug out a copy of the NACO in house magazine, summer 2020 edition with their price guide. Most manufacturers list a range of 10ft wide vans, although admittedly, they're in a minority. As a contrast the biggest from quick scanning seems to be 60x22 ft and the most expensive a shade over £200k!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 You could have a proper house for that sort of dosh ...............er - in some parts of the country ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just now, Wickham Green too said: You could have a proper house for that sort of dosh ...............er - in some parts of the country ! A street full in Bacup ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Yes, this really is a railtour in open wagons on a line with overhead catenary.... Harton Electric Railway 1968 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 We've had "trains in the landscape", but have we had wagons that were embedded in the landscape and abandoned for decades? High Peak Junction, 2011: And Potteric Carr 2010 (an area that's no longer accessible from the bird reserve): 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 10 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: The days of the 10ft wide Static Caravan are long gone, 12ft has been the standard for many years now Jim Yes, and the haulage companies seem determined to bring them along our single carriage road right around the time people are heading to work... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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