RMweb Premium Steven B Posted July 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Whilst the use of class 58's on trains other than MGR wasn't common, one exception was the Ashbury's to Toton Speedlink service which usually brought a member of the class to Greater Manchester each day (SX). However, the inclusion of a class 45 in the train wasn't common: (John Turner on Flickr) Edited July 19, 2021 by Steven B 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted July 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Steven B said: Whilst the use of class 58's on trains other than MGR wasn't common, one exception was the Ashbury's to Toton Speedlink service which usually brought a member of the class to Greater Manchester each day (SX). However, the inclusion of a class 45 in the train wasn't common: (John Turner on Flickr) Steven, I thought 58s were used on the Ashburys Speedlink just whilst the 58s were short of work during the Miners' Strike? Regards, Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted July 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2021 My understanding was their use on the Ashbury's trains happened before and after the 1984/85 strike. There are photos on Flickr of the class on the train before March '84 and after '85 - enough to suggest (to me at least!) that it was a regular diagram for the class. There's no doubting the strike took the class to a much wider range of locations with a more diverse set of trains. Steven B. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Steven B said: Whilst the use of class 58's on trains other than MGR wasn't common, one exception was the Ashbury's to Toton Speedlink service which usually brought a member of the class to Greater Manchester each day (SX). However, the inclusion of a class 45 in the train wasn't common: (John Turner on Flickr) Perhaps the 45 failed in the Manchester area and this was the easiest way to get it "home" to Toton for repairs. Edited July 19, 2021 by brushman47544 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 hours ago, LMS2968 said: You have a simple if child-like faith in a screw shackle! I do, I do ...... every time I travel by anything that's not knuckle-coupled throughout ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 20 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: ........ but if the boiler was empty the axle loads would have been significantly reduced ! Hi Whickham, One thing you may not realise is that should a locomotive have a bogie or a truck removed as in the photograph then steel packings would be inserted between the tops of the axle boxes and the bump-stops of the hornguide or frame. The are two reasons for doing this, 1, so that the buffer heights would remain somewhere near where they ought to be, and 2, so the that the springs and anchor points would not be unduly loaded for too long a period of time resulting in fracture of either. The result of doing this is that most of the 17 tons would be transferred to the leading set of driving wheels giving a loading almost double of what is should be with that load being transferred to the frame through the steel packings rather than the spring gear. Should you ever see "P/K" chalked onto the end of an axle then it has been packed as described, this was done as reminder to the fitters to remove the packings after refitting the missing wheelsets. The second thing is that the centre of mass of the boiler is pretty much over the driving wheels so draining out anything between seven to nine tons of water, not forgetting there will not be a tone of coal on the grate, might only reduce the loading on the driving and truck axles by approximately a ton and a half, with the bogie's loading being reasonably unaffected. Gibbo. 3 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 60006 47789 Besford 2001 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 8F & Class 40 Bentham June 1968 by Gricer1946 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 20, 2021 The 8F found the 40 dead on the tracks and being a nice 8F decided to give it a ride home! (yes I know it's in power double heading) 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: 8F & Class 40 Bentham June 1968 by Gricer1946 That's a lovely 'train in the landscape' photo, worthy of being hung on the railway room wall. The Shell and BP logos on the tanks adds a good splash of colour to an otherwise fairly dull train of tank wagons. Thank you. 2 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 22 hours ago, melmerby said: The 8F found the 40 dead on the tracks and being a nice 8F decided to give it a ride home! (yes I know it's in power double heading) It does look as if it's doing most of the work! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I've shared this one before but definitely ideal for this thread. Got two of the same unit and thinking about renumbering? Apologies for the poor quality but it was quite amusing to see 150142 in two platforms! Taken in the late 80's I think with my rubbish 110 camera. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Watto1990 Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2021 Pedal harder! We’re two minutes late! 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Maybe that should be on the Level Crossing Stupidity thread ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Should be stopped at the next box: Train Passed Without Tail Lamp! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, LMS2968 said: Should be stopped at the next box: Train Passed Without Tail Lamp! Isn’t that what the the guy with the red flag essentially is. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted July 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2021 Thought that you could only run your Hornby L & M coaches with your Rocket model? Eccles (Liverpool & Manchester 150) 1980 by Martyn Hilbert 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Darius43 said: Isn’t that what the the guy with the red flag essentially is. Cheers Darius No, he's a man with a red flag stopping traffic on the road. The tail lamp goes on the last vehicle of the train to prove the train is complete and no part of it has been left behind. The two are not separable. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Thought that you could only run your Hornby L & M coaches with your Rocket model? You'd find it hard to couple them to your 08 though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2021 I don't blame them for not having a tail lamp. Do you not remember how hard it was to pedal once you engaged the dynamo on a push bike? All that extra effort just to to emit some feeble light front and rear! Kev. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2021 Looks like it's in the US somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Watto1990 said: Pedal harder! We’re two minutes late! Is it available in 2mm scale yet? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 It seems to be this company: https://www.railexplorers.net/explorer-options If you click on ‘Explorers’ on that page, it shows the different vehicles available, and says that they can be coupled together. Of their locations, I’d guess it’s either Cooperstown or in the Catskills. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 hours ago, montyburns56 said: Thought that you could only run your Hornby L & M coaches with your Rocket model? Eccles (Liverpool & Manchester 150) 1980 by Martyn Hilbert "Titfield Thunderbolt" if made in the 80's? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 hours ago, pH said: It seems to be this company: https://www.railexplorers.net/explorer-options If you click on ‘Explorers’ on that page, it shows the different vehicles available, and says that they can be coupled together. The one I pedalled in Austria ( manufacturer unknown ) had no coning to the wheels so the flanges bound on every curve .............needed far more oomph than it should ! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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