Prototype for everything corner.

[russ p]

4 hours ago, LMS2968 said:

Would it have carried a headlamp? I didn't think they normally did.

 

If it had a lighting failure it would have done

You sometimes see radom headlamps on diesels from that period. It also showing a class 7 headcode so there may have been a problem with the blind mechanism 

[Wickham Green too]

5 hours ago, petethemole said:

The driver of the 24 is visible in the cab.

..... and the crewman on the 9F is facing the same way - which probably suggests forwards in direction of travel.

Edited August 13, 2021 by Wickham Green too

[montyburns56]

There's a bit of everything in this train....

 

Achnasheen 1973 by KDH Archive

 

 

 

 

[Wickham Green too]

Looks like the whitewash coach.

[eastwestdivide]

31 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

Looks like the whitewash coach.

More over here

 

[Wickham Green too]

I would guess it's more likely the L.M.R. one : - http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=664

 

https://www.transporttreasury.com/p444133904/hAC18E220#hac18e220

Edited August 13, 2021 by Wickham Green too

[Metr0Land]

Ever wanted to run your GCR/LNER Director class D11 with SR Maunsell stock?  No need to feel guilty!

 

 

[melmerby]

Says it's at Grimsby!

[montyburns56]

Markinch 1982 by Bruce Galloway

 

 

[billbedford]

10 hours ago, Metr0Land said:

Ever wanted to run your GCR/LNER Director class D11 with SR Maunsell stock?  No need to feel guilty!

 

Directors would've headed LSWR and Maunsell stock on the Bournemouth-Newcastle trains until the advent of the B17s on the GC. 

[melmerby]

1 hour ago, billbedford said:

 

Directors would've headed LSWR and Maunsell stock on the Bournemouth-Newcastle trains until the advent of the B17s on the GC. 

Set number 275 (from picture) was the following formation (All Maunsell stock):

 

 BCK   TK     TK      TK     TK      CK     TK     TK     TK    BCK

6597 2321 2323 2324 2337 5585 2338 2330 2333 6600

[caradoc]

17 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Markinch 1982 by Bruce Galloway

 

 

 

Facing point on a passenger line into a gated siding, surely very unusual ? 

[pheaton]

On 13/08/2021 at 19:43, eastwestdivide said:

More over here

 

I Read that thread, but why was it called the white wash coach?

[john new]

5 minutes ago, pheaton said:

I Read that thread, but why was it called the white wash coach?

From memory when a defect, or similar, needed marking without stopping the train whitewash was dropped onto the formation. All in the days before modern GPS etc., equipment could record the location electronically for later analysis, done analogue on site at the time. Hope this helps.

[Fat Controller]

4 minutes ago, john new said:

From memory when a defect, or similar, needed marking without stopping the train whitewash was dropped onto the formation. All in the days before modern GPS etc., equipment could record the location electronically for later analysis, done analogue on site at the time. Hope this helps.

Originally, the whitewash was poured from the toilet, IIRC. I remember watching one in action on the sea wall between Llanelli and Pembrey. The coach was an antediluvian Churchward one (this was the late 1960s), on the back of a service train

[Michael Hodgson]

11 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

Originally, the whitewash was poured from the toilet, IIRC. 

Put the whitewash in the cistern and flush, or just tip into the pan? 

[Fat Controller]

39 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Put the whitewash in the cistern and flush, or just tip into the pan? 

That I couldn't say; I saw the thing moving at 60 mph....

[Wickham Green too]

16 hours ago, melmerby said:

Set number 275 (from picture) was the following formation (All Maunsell stock):

 

 BCK   TK     TK      TK     TK      CK     TK     TK     TK    BCK

6597 2321 2323 2324 2337 5585 2338 2330 2333 6600

Er ............ all the Composites were, indeed, Maunsell stock .......... but all the Thirds ( in fact, downgraded Firsts ) were Ironclads.

This set was only formed in 1954 - and withdrawn in 1959.

Edited August 15, 2021 by Wickham Green too

[melmerby]

3 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Er ............ all the Composites were, indeed, Maunsell stock .......... but all the Thirds ( in fact, downgraded Firsts ) were Ironclads.

This set was only formed in 1954 - and withdrawn in 1959.

The source I was looking at said all Maunsell!

https://sremg.org.uk/coach/sets.html

 

The moral is don't believe what people publish on t'net

 

 

[montyburns56]

Caption says they are both ex-LSWR stock so I'm guessing this is rareish?

 

Exeter Central by Geoff Dowling

 

 

[melmerby]

3 hours ago, melmerby said:

The source I was looking at said all Maunsell!

https://sremg.org.uk/coach/sets.html

 

The moral is don't believe what people publish on t'net

 

 

Now looked it up in my Mike King volume.

Which is what I should have done in the first place, instead of blindly repeating what I saw.

[zarniwhoop]

4 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Caption says they are both ex-LSWR stock so I'm guessing this is rareish?

 

Exeter Central by Geoff Dowling

 

 

The green one is an SR Maunsell (low window, so comparatively early), not LSWR.

[Cowley 47521]

9 minutes ago, zarniwhoop said:

The green one is an SR Maunsell (low window, so comparatively early), not LSWR.

It’s a very interesting photo though. Being from Exeter it’s not one that I’d seen before.

[Wickham Green too]

8 hours ago, zarniwhoop said:

The green one is an SR Maunsell (low window, so comparatively early), not LSWR.

NOPE ........ read what CKT says on the flikr page : Does that timber panelling look like a steel-sided Maunsell ? - does that rod-trussing look like the structural steel under a Maunsell ? - do the bogies look like standard Southern Maunsell/Lynes ones ? - does the low elliptical roof look right for a Maunsell ? - do I have to go on an' on an' on with this ????!?

[melmerby]

8 hours ago, zarniwhoop said:

The green one is an SR Maunsell (low window, so comparatively early), not LSWR.

One of the comments says it's an LSWR diag 409 BCK and the other a LSWR body on a SR u/f diag 97.

 

 

EDIT

Snap!

 

Edited August 16, 2021 by melmerby