DavidB-AU Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, newbryford said: Actually that train has been modelled and even exceeded. AMRA WA has a monster HO layout called Arid Australia where they do run full length iron ore trains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BR(S) Posted November 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2021 HST power car hauling a TPO coach: HST power car 43074 runs through platform 2 at Peterborough with one Royal Mail coach. 7 March 1989 by Graham Petts, on Flickr 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, BR(S) said: HST power car hauling a TPO coach: HST power car 43074 runs through platform 2 at Peterborough with one Royal Mail coach. 7 March 1989 by Graham Petts, on Flickr ISTR that single power cars had to have a coupling converter if the PC should fail on route and could be pushed from behind. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 21 hours ago, newbryford said: It would need a decent size goods loop if you want to let an express passenger pass it. And it's going to take while to sort out if it gets a hot box on the 547th wagon. Pity the poor Guard walking to the box to comply with rule 55. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: Pity the poor Guard walking to the box to comply with rule 55. He'd probably pass a couple of other boxes on the way ! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2021 11 hours ago, newbryford said: ISTR that single power cars had to have a coupling converter if the PC should fail on route and could be pushed from behind. From the days when such things were important and still should be today. Hardly anything is compatible with each other . Even if trains have similar couplers they are often at different heights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, russ p said: From the days when such things were important and still should be today. Hardly anything is compatible with each other . Even if trains have similar couplers they are often at different heights So the Triang Hornby R577 converter coupling coal wagon (and the horse box) was actually way ahead of its time (prototype wise) Jim 2 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: So the Triang Hornby R577 converter coupling coal wagon (and the horse box) was actually way ahead of its time (prototype wise) Jim Back in the day some rolling stock had provision for alternative couplings. e.g. Trix Whisky Wagons came with the Trix version of the Peco coupling but also mountings for Triang Tension Locks. (IIRC because Triang also sold them) I had one with Trix one end & T/L the other so I could run mixed rakes, I had some Trix Speedlink wagons and some Hornby Dublo wagons as well as Triang stuff.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 How about a loco with wooden drivers? Two of the South Eastern Railways "standard goods" ran for a time with Mansell wheels. (Richard Mansell was an employee of the SER at the time, he even served as an interim CME). The experiment was not deemed a success 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, whart57 said: How about a loco with wooden drivers? Two of the South Eastern Railways "standard goods" ran for a time with Mansell wheels. (Richard Mansell was an employee of the SER at the time, he even served as an interim CME). The experiment was not deemed a success I dont see why not - as long as you do the electrical pickup from the tender wheels. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, whart57 said: How about a loco with wooden drivers? Most of mine are plastic or whitemetal ................ same for the firemen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, whart57 said: How about a loco with wooden drivers? Two of the South Eastern Railways "standard goods" ran for a time with Mansell wheels. (Richard Mansell was an employee of the SER at the time, he even served as an interim CME). The experiment was not deemed a success S&M No.1 "Gazelle" also has Mansell wheels. 59 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: I dont see why not - as long as you do the electrical pickup from the tender wheels. Why? The metal tyres are still in contact with the track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 09/11/2021 at 21:24, Michael Hodgson said: It would need a decent size goods loop if you want to let an express passenger pass it. And it's going to take while to sort out if it gets a hot box on the 547th wagon. Pity the poor Guard walking to the box to comply with rule 55. One of my old drivers had worked commissioning the Sishen iron-ore line in South Africa. They had a trail bike on the front loco in case they had to go back along the train for whatever reason. Occasionally, there might be a coupling failure; a new coupling would be brought in by helicopter, which also served as a crane to swap new for old. 1 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted November 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Fat Controller said: One of my old drivers had worked commissioning the Sishen iron-ore line in South Africa. They had a trail bike on the front loco in case they had to go back along the train for whatever reason. Occasionally, there might be a coupling failure; a new coupling would be brought in by helicopter, which also served as a crane to swap new for old. That line is electrified so how did the helicopter winch cable avoid touching the 50kV OHL wires doing the above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Welly said: That line is electrified so how did the helicopter winch cable avoid touching the 50kV OHL wires doing the above? No idea, and Phil's dead now so I can't ask him. It might have been another of my drivers, who worked on another iron-ore line in Mauretania. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Welly said: That line is electrified so how did the helicopter winch cable avoid touching the 50kV OHL wires doing the above? Possibly used a Nylon strop - but it would have been risky for the chopper unless he could disconnect immediately if things got tangled ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Carrying any sort of load under a helicopter is inherently dangerous and pilots normally keep well clear of any overhead cables, whether electrified or not. Gusts of wind or turbulence can take a helicopter away from its course or the position it is trying to hold. If the aircraft develops an emergency the captain may need to jettison its cargo. In case of engine failure, the pilot may need to put the machine into auto-rotate and find somewhere nearby to make an emergency landing. It would be usual to touch any wire hanging from a helicopter to ground to discharge static electricity before attaching it to anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Manchester Exchange 4th Aug 1968 by John Whiteley 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 16:57, Welly said: That line is electrified so how did the helicopter winch cable avoid touching the 50kV OHL wires doing the above? I would have thought the helicopter could just land alongside the line & hand over the coupling to be fitted by the train crew. I really don't see the need for the coupling to be changed from the air Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack374 Posted November 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2021 From Flickr. Jack. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Bangholm 1981 by Alan Rintoul 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 21:48, Jack374 said: From Flickr. Jack. Shame the tankers aren't brighter colours or in Private Owner liveries, or it could be a Hornby train set 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 19:14, Ramblin Rich said: I would have thought the helicopter could just land alongside the line & hand over the coupling to be fitted by the train crew. I really don't see the need for the coupling to be changed from the air Probably down to how much the train crew could lift; these would be somewhat heavier than a UIC screw coupling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Ben B said: Shame the tankers aren't brighter colours or in Private Owner liveries, or it could be a Hornby train set Hasn't got a GWR brake van on the end.... 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpster Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 15/11/2021 at 18:59, montyburns56 said: Manchester Exchange 4th Aug 1968 by John Whiteley This looks like a colourised black and white photo where only the coaches and the buffer beam have been done! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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