luckymucklebackit Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 More coal fired impersonators. Not my video but I was standing next to the guy who filed it taking still shots! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 So much for clean air! Why do diesel locos do that? In the US it's not unusual to get bursts of flames as well (even without a blown turbo) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 "Boss, we've run out of sheet metal for the cab..... but we have found this old water tank...." Jersey Eastern Railway Sentinel 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: "Boss, we've run out of sheet metal for the cab..... but we have found this old water tank...." Jersey Eastern Railway Sentinel Weelll ...... FORMER Jersey Eastern Railway Sentinel ..................... what a great shame 'DOM' is no more ! - maybe someone should build a replica - starting with a water tank, of course. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said: More coal fired impersonators. Not my video but I was standing next to the guy who filed it taking still shots! I hope no-one had their washing out!. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) Here’s another unhealthy specimen. I remember pulling off the southbound M6 somewhere in Cumbria or Lancashire having seen this train waiting in a loop and assuming it would follow the next up passenger, which it did. Other than that, I don't know the exact location, loco number, what train it was or even the date (apart from early 90s). EDIT: it’s subsequently been identified as 37023 (thanks to poster 37114 for the information). Edited July 7, 2020 by Western Aviator Loco identified 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2020 5 hours ago, melmerby said: So much for clean air! Why do diesel locos do that? In the US it's not unusual to get bursts of flames as well (even without a blown turbo) White smoke = water, normally from a head gasket or cracked liner, but could also be an leaking inter-cooler. Blue smoke = oil, which indicates the piston rings have gone, or turbocharger seals. Black smoke = unburnt fuel, which normally means the injectors are worn and not atomising the fuel properly. Puffing black smoke = unburnt fuel from a single injector or sticking fuel pump over delivering fuel, possibly accompanied by loud banging. Flames = unburnt fuel eventually burning in the exhaust system. 4 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 With a diesel white smoke is usually vapourised diesel - i.e. fuel is being injected but the cylinder is not firing. Most prevalent on EE engines cold starting, plenty of videos on youtube for reference! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2020 I thought white smoke means a new pope has been chosen. I’ll get my coat. 1 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted June 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Titan said: With a diesel white smoke is usually vapourised diesel - i.e. fuel is being injected but the cylinder is not firing. Most prevalent on EE engines cold starting, plenty of videos on youtube for reference! On a cold engine, yes it will be white-ish, but if it is hot, it will be coolant, as vapourised fuel would burn in the exhaust system at running temperatures, and on an EE with straight out the turbo exhaust ports, flames. Hence the unofficial volcano names applied by Tinsley... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 18 hours ago, Davexoc said: White smoke = water, normally from a head gasket or cracked liner, but could also be an leaking inter-cooler. Blue smoke = oil, which indicates the piston rings have gone, or turbocharger seals. Black smoke = unburnt fuel, which normally means the injectors are worn and not atomising the fuel properly. Puffing black smoke = unburnt fuel from a single injector or sticking fuel pump over delivering fuel, possibly accompanied by loud banging. Flames = unburnt fuel eventually burning in the exhaust system. White smoke = sneaky ciggie in the cab Blue smoke = sneaky ciggie dropped in lap Black smoke = sneaky ciggie dropped in lap then brushed off into bag which set on fire Puffing black smoke = ex Steam driver Flames = run away 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 12 hours ago, woodenhead said: Flames = run away Unless it's a Class 37, in which case disable fire alarm and carry on as normal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post montyburns56 Posted June 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2020 I don't fancy yours much Pt 2. Leeds 1984 24 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: I don't fancy yours much Pt 2. Leeds 1984 Leeds has changed a bit these days 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: I don't fancy yours much Pt 2. Leeds 1984 Like your number 12 shirt choice for the last dance in some dodgy night club in the 80's! I think I'll go for a kebab lads....... Some great photos here! Regards Guy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted June 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: I don't fancy yours much Pt 2. Leeds 1984 There must be a guy with a paintbrush and a tin of warning panel yellow just out of shot, as you just don't get that much clean paintwork in one place....! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SP Steve Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Not sure if you want a heavy weathered or clean look for your loco? 33.029 seen at Bristol Temple Meads exhibits a third / two thirds cleanliness ratio. Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, SP Steve said: Not sure if you want a heavy weathered or clean look for your loco? 33.029 seen at Bristol Temple Meads exhibits a third / two thirds cleanliness ratio. No such decisions need to be made about the parcels van - as usual. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Fed up with the cliched burnt out brake van? Go one better with a burnt out carriage look! The mortal remains of QPV DB977249 (ex Mk1 CK M16081) seen at Woodhams Yard. Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Go one different for your green / small yellow panel liveried loco by adopting the BR 'Arrows of Indecision' Class 31 D5677 (31.249) seen stabled on Tinsley depot. Edited March 31, 2022 by SP Steve 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted June 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2020 Hi folks, Couldn't get a photo today due to the rain but a pre-fab building about five minutes walk from here has a painted brick effect applied to help it blend in with the surrounding architecture; what it looks like is Superquick brick paper reproduced at 12":1' scale. Hopefully I'll get a pic tomorrow and post it here. Regards, Alex. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 It's not only diesel units that get mis-matched : - 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I'm posting this mainly because of the number of brake vans in use, but I also noticed how one of them seems to be a ZTO brake van for departmental use, but I didn't know that this livery variant was in use in the 70s or is the photo date wrong?? Manors 1974 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: I'm posting this mainly because of the number of brake vans in use, but I also noticed how one of them seems to be a ZTO brake van for departmental use, but I didn't know that this livery variant was in use in the 70s or is the photo date wrong?? Manors 1974 I'd check the date: I don't think 'Dutch' livery was around that early. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: I'm posting this mainly because of the number of brake vans in use, but I also noticed how one of them seems to be a ZTO brake van for departmental use, but I didn't know that this livery variant was in use in the 70s or is the photo date wrong?? Manors 1974 Looks like a trip from West Blyth to Tyne Yard the crane at the front is the ADRF96405 that was the only crane suitable for use on West Blyth Staiths, the tank is probably a waste oil tank with a Grampus behind that looks like it is filled with pick up coal off the Staiths and surplus Brake Vans going for use on weekend P'Way trains out of Tyne! As for date more like 1984 as the North Tyneside loop had closed and the platforms to the right taken out of use and lifted since about 1977 when closed for conversion to Metro. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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